Can someone tell me what type of boat this is?

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  1. kazz
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    Hi im new here but i was really wondering if i can get some help, theres this boat at the marina im thinking about buying and fixing up , it was abandoned but the marina has no info on it...weird, im posting pics can anyone help?
     

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    Welcome to the forum,

    can you post some dimensions: length, max beam, etc. Might help identify it. Looks like it was designed to the old IOR rules based on the narrow transom, from mid '80's? there are others on this forum much more knowledgeable about those boats.
     
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    hi im sorry but all i have are these pics and that its a 33 footer.it also has a Swedish name Ragnarok, and the old owner was swedish, hope that helps
     
  4. messabout
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    Would have been a nice looking boat in its original form. The pictures make it look tired and may very well be a costly restoration. Depends a lot on what is in the interior of the boat, if it has decent sails, are the electronics still there, are they useable, what is the engine like....if it is still there and a hundred other questions that will bear heavily on whether or not the boat is worth whatever the asking price.

    Scum line above the boot top says that she has been afloat while down by the stern......Hmmmm. I'd want to know why. The keel configuration suggests that she might be sensitive about sail layout and trim. Is the rudder there and in good shape? Boat appears to be of fiberglass construction. Inspection of any and all encapsulated stringers or other structurals need to be evaluated by a pro.

    If you are serious about buying this boat, hire a professional surveyor to do a thorough inspection and report. Not a surveyor who is in any way associated with or friendly with the yard. If the boat is abandoned, that means that the yard will have a storage bill which can almost always be negotiated. The yard just wants it out of their way. If you are thinking of refurbishing within the confines of the yard then you'd better know how much cooperation you can expect and the cost that might entail.

    Exercise caution, it's a pretty looking boat, dont let your emotions influence your decisions.
     
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  5. Petros
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    A local popular saying is the boat you can afford least is the free one. which means, no matter how low the cost, it might cost much more to maker it seaworthy than just buying one ready to go that has been cared for.

    What else comes with the boat? sails, engine? how long as it been abandon, the yard should know that.
     
  6. kazz
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    the boat has basically been on the water for four years, untill they put it on the dry 3 months ago...the rudder is gone /it has an engine but everything is pretty buch untouched for 4 years..ive added some extra photos of the keel and stuff so u could tell better. i really would have liked to know the brand tho..at least to check on the reliability of it and stuff. the interior is prestine tho..

    oh and theres a logo with a letter F with a crown on it ring any bells?
     

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    The HIN, embossed into the upper right side of the transom will reveal the MIC (Manufacture Identification Code). Post the first 3 digits (letters) and we'll tell you what it is.

    She's obviously been grounded hard and you'll probably have to replace keel bolts.
     
  8. kazz
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    on the side in the rear the first three leters were BBC
     
  9. Petros
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    could be several, not likely the current Bahama Boat Works of Florida in business since april 2005, but one of the older ones listed below;




    see the link: http://www.uscgboating.org/recalls/mic_detail.aspx?id=BBC

    MIC: BBC Status: In Business
    Company: BAHAMA BOAT WORKS LLC

    Company Official: ROBERT SPARKS JR
    Parent Company: Parent MIC:
    Address: 5470 DEXTER WAY City: MANGONIA PARK
    State: FL Zip: 33407

    Country: Phone: 5613090325
    Fax: In Business: Tuesday, April 26, 2005
    Date Modified: Thursday, April 28, 2011
    Type: Outboards, Open Motorboats, Jon Boats


    Comments: BBC WAS BANDARO BOAT CO LAS VEGAS. OOB 780316. ALSO PREVIOUSLY BIG BOAT CO, HOWARD COLLINS, 2409 TREASURE HILL CT, HARLINGEN, TX 78550, PREVIOUS ADDRESS 7313 PORCHER AVE SUITE 6 MYRTLE BCH SC 29572-CHANGED 890907, TYPE 11, INBUS 890306, OOB 920529.
     
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    Bahama Boat Works
    5470 DEXTER WAY MANGONIA PARK FL
     
  11. kazz
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    hmm yh i checked those before...i dont think its a US boat tho
     
  12. bajansailor
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    She looks similar to a Kings Cruiser 33 - some info about them here :

    http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?CLASS_ID=5043

    And here is one for sale :

    http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/197...kreuzer-33-2604630/Laboe/Germany#.UiFcBn-Pj-v

    These yachts were built in the 70's by a company called Fiskars Oy in Finland, who also built the Finnsailer range of motor sailers.

    Altho' similar to a Kings Cruiser, there are differences, eg re the windows in the hull topsides, and the Kings Cruisers have a shaft drive rather than a sail drive.

    The logo does look quite similar though, as the Kings Cruisers have a crown embossed on the topsides as well.
     
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  15. bajansailor
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    Excellent!

    Here is one that has just been sold in England - if you register with Boatshed, then you can see all the photos of her.
    http://suffolk.boatshed.com/finnfire_finnfire_33-boat-57067.html

    And here is one on Lake Windermere - but she has windows in the cabin rather than the hull topsides, and the interior layout is different.
    http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/boatMergedDetails.jsp?boat_id=2393573

    Here is a query about them on the YBW Forum : http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?186612-Finnfire-33-any-experience
     
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