Call for Papers; Propeller & Shafting 2015, Sept 15-16, Norfolk, VA

Discussion in 'Education' started by CDBarry, Feb 24, 2015.

  1. CDBarry
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    The fourteenth propeller / shafting symposium is being planned by Panel M-16 (Propulsion Shaft Systems) of the Society's Technical and Research Program. This symposium will address the overall propulsion transmission system of gearing, shafting, couplings, bearings, seals, and propellers. The symposium is planned for September 15 - 16, 2015 at the Norfolk Waterside Marriott & Convention Center, Norfolk, Virginia under the auspices of the Hampton Roads Section of the Society.

    In order to develop the program, we would appreciate your submitting an abstract between February 1 and March 1, 2015.

    Those interested in submitting an abstract should submit both a tentative title and a brief abstract, in electronic format, along with telephone, fax numbers and an email address to:

    Mr. Kevin Prince
    Panel Chairman
    Gibbs & Cox, Inc.
    2711 Jefferson Davis Highway
    Airport Plaza 1, Suite 1000
    Arlington, VA 22202 U.S.A.
    Email: kprince@gibbscox.com

    Authors will be notified of acceptance by March 30.
    The draft paper is required by May 1.

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    All; note that there have been a good number of important high speed small craft oriented papers published at this forum over the years (the Blount and Hubble small craft prop series, for example) - let's keep up the tradition.
     
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    I wonder how a Retractable Shaft Drive would be accepted? Or must it be "traditional".
     
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    I would assume that they would be interested in any interesting paper relating to the subjects. Contact Mr.Price directly and ask.

    (I have certainly done some odd papers over the years.)
     
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    The abstract deadline has been extended to March 16.
     
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    Because there are virtually no retractable shaft drives on the market for power boats it would seem to me they would have no concept about such drives which could have been introduced from the earliest days of power boating.

    They obviously do not understand a lot about Mechanical Geometry or boating in general.
    Even the introduction of retractable air craft landing gear caused a lot of controversies and as you can see on this Forum not many can cope with the concept of a retractable/pivotal shaft drive for power boats which makes so much sense like the aircraft equivalent landing gear.
     
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    Papers

    I'm not sure who "they" is, but I have been on papers committees and it is usually a struggle to get enough papers. (Speaking of which, note FAST 2015 call for papers.)

    Most venues have a great interest in papers out of the norm (anyone looking at most of my papers would note this, plus a bit of desperation on the part of the papers committee).

    The universal problem is getting people to take the time to write papers, so if you have an interesting take on this subject, go for it.
     
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    I appreciate this thread thank`s for posts. I have had the greatest difficulty getting knowledgeable factual discussion on many mechanical (and other) subjects as "they" the professionals seem to be afraid of discussion and making any statements which could be out of their fields of experience.
    Even when good payment is made the same old stories come up (we know everything) but no concrete evidence of reasons for objections against suggestions put forward.
     
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    Tom

    I think you're being somewhat unfair and biased, regarding having a paper accepted.

    All papers must go through a peer review. It is not the position of the committee that reviews the papers to say what is or is not too radical etc. Their only objective is to ensure that the papers presented and offered are logical, sensible and can be supported by facts using either theory and/or practice of the subject matter at hand. Otherwise it becomes either a pure sales pitch (not allowed) or just nonsense (unsupported claims).

    Thus if you or know of someone that has submitted a paper in the past and had it rejected, one can only assume there is too much "please believe me" religion based rather than science/engineering factual based information.
     
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    Thank`s Ad Hoc," All papers must go through a peer review" so judgment of papers is based on the knowledge of the reviewers and their ability to comprehend if suggested ideas are logical, sensible and can be supported by facts, using either theory and/or PRACTICE of the subject matter at hand.
    Something that is suggested which should be known and understood and tried but has not been put into practice because no one saw the potential goes into the too hard basket.

    Pivoting shaft drives are certainly not new to the auto industry but unexplored in boating so should be well known to those in the Marine Industry.

    Of course I know that I am criticizing an establishment but don`t you think that every one needs a "wake up call". if papers and interest are in short supply.
     
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    If it is religion based and a pure sales pitch sure. It's mumbo-jumbo.

    But, if the theme and claims of the paper can be independently supported by evidence, either theory or practice, it is accepted.

    It is not about what is known and understood. The theory is not being put on the 'stand' as such, but, the author and their claim is! Thus can the author support their claims by established theory or practice...yes or no. It is that simple.

    Those that cannot, yet have a deep in my blood feeling and being doing 'it' for 40 years with blood and sweat find this hard to accept. Science & engineering is not faith/religion based...it is promoted by facts and independent evidence not hearsay or "you don't understand because you've not done this before" argument. There is very very ...very little that has not been done before. Most amateurs are unaware of what has been done previously in the past decades even centuries. Many "new" ideas are simply old ones that have been given new life...for any multitude of reasons. usually related to 'fashion'.
     
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    From SNAME Events:

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    The abstract deadline has been extended to March 16.

    Papers on the following subjects are particularly desired, but other topics related to propulsion transmission systems are welcome.
    • Main Propulsion Transmission Systems, Analytic Design Procedures, Experimental Data, and Correlation of Design and Experience Related to:
    o Propellers
    Fixed/ Contrallable Pitch
    Contra-rotating Highly Skewed
    Overlapping, Cycloidal
    Ducted, Podded Units
    Composite and/or Metal Matrix
    Water Jets, Thrusters

    o Shafting Systems
    Inboard/ Outboard Sections
    Conventional/ Composite Materials
    Shaft Alignment
    Hydraulic, Mechanical, and Flexible Couplings
    Vibration

    o Bearings
    Design
    Materials

    o Seal
    Stern tube
    Bulkhead

    o Gearing
    Main Reduction Gear
    Right Angle Gear Drives

    • Manufacturing, Tolerances, Maintenance and Repair
    • Finite Element Analysis Applied to Shafting Alignment
    • Metallurgical Properties
    • Composite Materials
    • Failure Criteria
    • Economic Costs
    • New Technologies for Reducing Costs
     

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