building powerboat:details, fittings

Discussion in 'Fiberglass and Composite Boat Building' started by amber, Jun 12, 2008.

  1. amber
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    amber Junior Member

    I'm going to produce powerboats. As the beginner, I have no detailed information on building the vessels I would like to.
    The type of vessel we wish to build:
    • ca. 11-14 meter long
    • speedboat
    • FRP/Composite construction
    • modern, planing vessel
    • layout type preferred: sedan
    • hull configuration: monohull
    • the use purpose: cruising offshore (Baltic sea) and inshore

    The information we would like to get:
    • the enumeration and quantity of all details and fittings that we will have to buy from other manufacturers
    • the approximate prices of these details and fittings
    • drawings or plans of typical vessel with schemes where these details/fittings are embed
    Could somebody help us with this?
     
  2. the1much
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    the1much hippie dreams

  3. kengrome
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    I'm glad I can build my own boats. I would hate to buy one from a company like yours when all you want to do is take as many uneducated shortcuts as possible in order to jump into production. Sounds like the same old greed-motivated game people play constantly in this country. I guess it's a third-world thing ...

    :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
  4. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    Hire an engineer or go to school. There aren't any short cuts to understanding structure, element dynamics, etc. I'd be happy to help, but you can expect a fee.
     
  5. amber
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    amber Junior Member

    It's OK with design project, but how much we will spend on different kind of stuff like screws/bolts/lamps/handles/wires/etc? 1000? 10000? How to guess? WE DO NOT WANT TO GET IT FOR FREE! Just say you can help
     
  6. the1much
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    i can help,,,,i can give you a cost for everything down to the rag to wipe off the dust.,,,,i'll expect $5,000.00 u.s. up front,,,after i give you your cost analysis ,,i'll expect $3,000.00 more.<and them are cheap figures ,,,see,, i already saved you money,,that'll be an extra charge hehe ;)
     
  7. kengrome
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    You don't have to guess at it, just make a list of every item you'll install in the boat, then find the supplier for that item, ask for his price, then add together all the prices you've obtained from all your suppliers. Your total is the amount you will spend.

    Simple.
     
  8. the1much
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    oh,,,1 more big thingy ,,, you'll need a detailed drawing with all fittings,,what your making the boat out of,,interior design,oh,,,,you probably dont have that do you?,,,,,and why are you NOW a beginner?,,your other posts says your already a company building boats?,,,,this lie-loop is getting awful big,,

    ,,,,"watcher"
     
  9. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    I supply materials and hardware lists (nuts bolts, screws, cleats, fairleads, plywood, lumber, metals, etc.) with every plan I ship. So do every reputable designers I know.

    As the designer, I can also bid out the build for you, recommend builders, act as the general contractor, offer supervisory capacity during the build, and act as a purchaser for all or some of your hardware requirements, from complete engines to the smallest washer. All of these can be supplied with a price, before you purchase or sign any agreements or contracts.

    This is the job of the professional yacht designer. A good set of plans will normally include a manufacture's code or item number for each piece, so you can get the exact part or find a similar one.
     
  10. amber
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    amber Junior Member

    Exactly! That is what we are going to do! We are builders of small rowing boats (information for the1much), we want to make estimates on costs of everything what we will buy from other manufacturers. The problem is the list of these items
     
  11. kengrome
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    kengrome Senior Member

    Look, if you want to save money you must do this work yourself. The first step is to obtain the plans and specifications for the boats you want to build. A typical designer will also include a list of materials. Do you have any of this information yet?

    If not, I suggest hiring PAR or someone else who does this kind of work for a living, and paying his professional fees to do this work for you.
     

  12. the1much
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    the1much hippie dreams

    i dont need the info,,,,,i am very well informed,,,,,so what are ya?,,,a beginner,,,or a small company building boats.,,,,and who are "WE"?
    and you seem not to be answering if you have a design or not,,,,?,, and since you KNOW what ya need to do, you MUST know ya need the FIRST step done before going to step 2,,,,,,,do you have step 1?,,or is THAT what your looking for?
     
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