Buccaneer 24 Builders Forum

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by oldsailor7, Jul 22, 2009.

  1. Waterat
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    Waterat Junior Member

    Bucc V's Acorn

    Hi, I've looked at the Acorn Study Plan. It's very like a Tiki 21 which I have
    owned and sailed. I also had a Clipper 25 Tri., so here is my two cents
    worth.
    Don't confuse total volume of space with usable space. The Cat hulls
    are coffin like, hard to turn in and hard to stow gear properly if you
    need it in a hurry.
    The Tri will give you comfort down below and room to stow, cook and
    sleep.
    You also have the benefit of a lovey cockpit in which to sit in comfort
    and have all your lines to hand.
    All this adds up to a much better sailing experience, if you are doing
    a little more than day sailing.
    I would spent the extra money on the additional materials because of
    the above reasons. I think the build time would be about the same,
    but the finished boat will be much easier and comfortable to sail, a
    fact you will apperiacite as you get older, Best regards, ;) ;)

    P.S. Hello OS7, I'm cleaning out the garage, :D :p
     
  2. oldsailor7
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    oldsailor7 Senior Member

    "P.S. Hello OS7, I'm cleaning out the garage,"

    Saints be praised Johnny. :)
     
  3. peterchech
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    peterchech Senior Member

    Old sailor why is it chalk to cheese? Im trying to decide which to build given my limitations of build time and very low budget...
     
  4. oldsailor7
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    oldsailor7 Senior Member

    Peter, I think Waterat answered that very well.

    You sit In it---not On it. It protects you.

    I have sailed in the NY to Bermuda race. You live in New Jersey so you have some idea of the conditions which have to be faced. I was prepared to sail my B24 in that race because I was so confident in it's ability to handle any expected conditions. It is a boat which looks after it's crew. Subsequent experience on Lake Ontario, in the worst wind and water conditions, only built confidence in this tough little Tri. I have never heard of a B24 capsize or pitchpole. I think Samz will attest to that.

    It is a sweetie to sail in flat water and light airs. It will move out when other boats seem to be anchored to the water---because virtually only the main hull is in the water.
    It's near round hull shape, light weight and low wetted surface make this happen. Lock designed this tri with a fairly conservative waterline L/B ratio so that it can carry a reasonable payload and still be fast.
    All sorts of modifications have been suggested for this boat, and I have considered all of them. However I never actually carried out any, other than installing a bigger vertical daggerboard to assure the best windward ability. I wanted to race---and windward ability wins races. (It also gets you off a lee shore in dangerous circumstances).
    It's no wonder Gary Baigent refers to it as "The Marvelous B24". :cool:
     
  5. peterchech
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    peterchech Senior Member

    OK... you convinced us to build a boat that is a few thousand bucks above our budget ;)... buc 24 it is!

    We will start setting up our building space on saturday morning, we can't start setting up tables and jigs, but we are gonna start clearing the palettes that are there now, hanging lights, and hanging lines for tarps to keep dust/etc out of the rest of the factory basement parking lot...

    How did that NY to Bermuda race go BTW OS?
     
  6. leecallen
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    Guys, I have found a project that's a much better fit for me: The Woods "Strike 18". The amas and rigging are all "re-purposed" from a beach cat, so the only thing to build is the main hull. And, at 18' feet, it will be a much better fit in my workspace (garage).

    This is a much more approachable project for me in terms of skills, time, space, and most importantly, knowledge of the total costs.

    I still want something in the 24' range with more comfortable accommodations, so maybe the B24 will be a good second project.

    I really appreciate the support and valuable information that was shared here, I plan to continue monitoring this thread.

    Lee
     
  7. peterchech
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    Haha Lee I think it is you who should build the Acorn!

    Are you gonna modify the Strike's cabin to be a tad less modular looking? That thing is U-GLY IMHO...
     
  8. leecallen
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    Yes Peter I agree it's not a thing of beauty.

    I am a bit intimidated by this whole boat building thing - there is so much I don't understand. Even when people work hard to provide very simple instructions, they often use terms I don't understand. It makes me wonder just how much I don't know.

    My budget limitations are real. The lack of visibility into total project costs scares the crap out of me.

    I have a challenging job and some unusual and challenging responsibilities as a father of a disabled child. So there are limits to the time I can find for this.

    Add to that my limited garage space, which still has to function as a working family garage for the duration of this project.

    If life throws me a curveball or two (and it tends to), I can easily envision a half built boat monopolizing my garage space for the next 3 years, and then being relegated to the back yard or something, where it rots.

    Bottom line, I am going to start with something easy, that I should be able to succeed at, and that I can afford. If it goes well -- and it should -- a 24-footer might well be next on my list.

    By the way, I have tackled other endeavors where doing easy project "abc" before big project "XYZ" actually took less time overall than going straight to XYZ. This smells like one of those things.

    Your challenging circumstances, which demand 100% up-front visibility of all materials, costs, timelines, tools, etc, also scares the crap out of me. I wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole. At least without first doing a project that taught me the techniques and familiarized me with the tools and materials.

    Just saying.

    Lee
     
  9. peterchech
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    peterchech Senior Member

    don't sweat it

    I just PM'd you Lee, as this conversation is prob what would be considered "thread drift" :D:D
     
  10. cavalier mk2
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    cavalier mk2 Senior Member

    Clippers are great, more room than a bucc 24 ,very seaworthy, dry wing decks and no folding or demountable complications ;)
     
  11. Will Sanborn
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    Will Sanborn New Member

    hello, I've only recently become interested in the Buccaneer24, can anyone direct me to the specs, also interested in purchasing plans, thanks
     
  12. oldsailor7
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    oldsailor7 Senior Member

    Go to:-"24ft Trimaran plans for sale." :D
     
  13. Will Sanborn
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    thanks! much obliged:)
     
  14. oldsailor7
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    oldsailor7 Senior Member

    I have to show this ---because "Ain't it the truth". :D


     

  15. Will Sanborn
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    By reputation and from what research I've done the Buccaneer seems to be the boat for us, and she's a beauty:D
     
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