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Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by oldsailor7, Jul 22, 2009.

  1. oldsailor7
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    Bruce.
    If---as you say, you find that the new board is most efficient raised 8-10 inches, do you intend to shorten the board by that much.? :?:
     
  2. jamez
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    Whoopsie

    If Capricorn had dug in much further here, you would have been able to scale the daggerboard off the photo.:D
     

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  3. oldsailor7
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    Fantastic shot Jamez.

    Just shows what the Buc24 can take.

    I have a sneaking suspicion that if the floats had been longer they would have had sufficient leverage to trip the boat over. :eek:
     
  4. Oceannavagator
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    Startling picture Jamez, you must have left quite a crease in the seat cushions after that spin-out. Have you ever had the boat capsize?
    Mike :eek:
     
  5. jamez
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    Yeah, that boat is built out of 4mm ply and is nearly 40 years old. Its a great pic but i can't take credit for it. Samnz (owner of the boat) posted it on our local sailing forum. These nose-dives are relatively common while racing. Its not been flipped to my knowledge.
     
  6. Oceannavagator
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    The crease I was speaking of is the one that happens when you clench your rear end up. I think that I may stick to the stock rig myself.
    Oh yeah, someone was going to furnish me with the dimensions of his mast this past weekend. Bruce, you didn't happen to jot them down did you?
    Mike :D
     
  7. Tom.151
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    Calling Samnz...
    I'd really like to learn the details of the crossbeam modifications on Capricorn.
    Do you have any webpages showing the details?

    (1) Some 30+ years ago I sailed with a friend who built his B24 to stock plans and without a doubt it was the quickest accelerating boat I had/have ever sailed on.
    (2) After going on the rocks during a hurricane we hauled the boat and repaired the main hull and both amas over one weekend. Says volumes about the benefits of simple construction. BTW - no probs with the crossbeams etc from the boat going on the rocks - stoutly designed.

    If I were changing anything...
    I'd just plumb the bows of all three hulls (keeping the knuckle of the vaka at the waterline however) and refair the stringers to the new stem/bow. Doing it that way will make the hull shapes fatter forward and does bring the buoyancy quite a bit forward by itself.

    And maybe take some of the rocker out of the main hull. If I remember correctly, I think Locke was a bit stuck with that main hull shape because of the need for getting some cruising displacement inside of the Micro Class rules.

    Yes, I have the plans to build my own! And would be building to the plans if I hadn't stumbled across this damn thread and seen the Samnz crossbeams!

    Cheers to all, great ideas brewing here,
    TomH
     
  8. jamez
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    Hi Mike, yeah I knew what you were referring to but wasn't on the boat. To be honest the guys that sail it are so used to it popping right back up when it digs in I don't think they are fazed by it any more.

    I was out on the water that day watching the days racing from a launch:eek: actually it was a large powercat so thats oK :D was a great afternoon out , heres one of my pics taken earlier in the day from leeward, you can just see the float starting to submerge.

    Tom, the beams on this boat were discussed towards the end of one of the other B24 threads.
     

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    Fantastic photo Jamez, it's kind of hard to tell how hard the wind was blowing because of the headland there sheltering the water but from the looks of the whitecaps it may have been 10-15 knots. That's a tremendous amount of sail he has up on that reach. That rooster-tail that he has behind him looks as though he's traveling at least 15 knots. Very exciting!
    Cutting out frames as we speak.
    Mike
     
  10. oldsailor7
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    Tom Henry.
    Are you actually building your B24, or are you still contemplating.?

    Do you still have the B28 plans. ?
     
  11. jamez
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    Good guess Mike it was about 12-15 knots most of the day with the occasional gust of 20 or so.
     
  12. Samnz
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    Actually we werent even racing when this photo was taken we were just cruising back to the mooring drinking beer...

    It looks bad in the photo, really bad actually, but its miles away from actaully digging in, we dont even ease the sheets, just hold on and wait for the boat to pop up and take off :D

    amazingly forgiving design!!!

    top speed earlier in the day was about 18.5 knots, highly doubt there was ever over 20 knots of breeze Jamez?
     
  13. bruceb
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    Nice pictures!

    OS7, I will try to quantify the new board's performance, but I am still learning to take advantage of it- and work up the confidence to push the boat as hard as Capricorn::cool: I am not cutting anything off until I am really sure I don't need it:D We have a club regatta sept 5th and I am hoping a couple of F24s come out and play. Bruce
     
  14. oldsailor7
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    Good ONYA Bruce.
    Just show those F24s a thing or two. :D
     

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    Bruceb,

    How do you usually fair against the F24?
     
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