Buccaneer 24 Builders Forum

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by oldsailor7, Jul 22, 2009.

  1. patzefran
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    patzefran patzefran

    IMHO, You should use Vectran instead of Dyneema. With dyneema, you will have to retighten your stays after each sailing !
     
  2. bruceb
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    bruceb Senior Member

    Hi, I beg to differ- I have my whole Buc 33 rigged with dyneema, it has been for the last four seasons, and after the first season, I have only had to tighten the rig twice. I have all dyneema stays and running rigging, only the forestay with a furler on it is wire. I plan on changing the adjusting tackles on the stays this season, everything else looks ok. I live in the southern USA with a lot of sun in the summer and freezing in the winter, the boat is raced a couple of times a week most of the year so it gets full exposure. I did have some older Vectron side stay adjusters break that had been on my 24. I guess they were about 6 years old. The vectron seemed to deteriorate faster than the dyneema that was side by side with it.
    Just my experience!
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  3. patzefran
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    patzefran patzefran

    I tried Dyneema as sea stay on two trimarans, it doesn't worked for me. But I pull very hard on my boats. Vectran don't need to retight but has to be protected from UV, this is not aproblem.
     
  4. bruceb
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    bruceb Senior Member

    I would agree that any synthetic is questionable for waterstays, I don't think it would work for my 33. I have solid aluminum bars on it, and it is really stiff and I like it that way.
    I think I am going to try some dyneema waterstays on my Dragonfly 25 rebuild, the beams are already a bit flexible and I can oversize the stays enough that I should eliminate some of the flex. If I don't like it I can always go back to wire or solid metal. My Fly is sort of experimental so I don't mind some trial and error.
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  5. Headharbor
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    Headharbor Junior Member

    Bruce:

    What do you mean when you said "...I spliced some dyneema for a set of 45 degree beam stays. I think the 24 will appreciate them. I added them to my B-33 and they really make a difference on keeping the forestay tight." I am having a hard time visualizing this.

    Time for me to uncover the B24 for the summer.

    Best,
    Carl
     
  6. bruceb
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    bruceb Senior Member

    Carl, they go from the outer front beam (next to the float hull) and back to the inside of the rear beam next to the main hull, run under the tramps.
    When the mast side stays load up, the windward float and beams move forward enough to let the rig go slack. The stays between the beams help keep the boat a lot stiffer. The beam stays don't need to be really tight, when you set them up you just want to take the fore and aft movement out of the beams. I think I used 5 mm heat set dyneema on the 24, sized to limit stretch. We used a loop around the forward beam, at the aft beam there was an eye we laced to for adjustment, but the lacing could also go around the beam to keep it simple.
    I will get some photos the next time I am at the lake.
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  7. freddyj
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    freddyj Senior Member

    Got new sails on my b24. Got great service and a great price from Precision Sails. The boat is completely transformed! I've already gone over 15 knots and it doesn't even come close to submerging an ama. With the old sails, at 12 knots it would almost submerge.
    That being said, anyone on this list gets close to Wichita Kansas is welcome aboard for a sail and buccaneer talk!
     
  8. bruceb
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    bruceb Senior Member

    Congrats Fred! Good/new sails make a difference on any boat, but on light and fast boats, the lift to drag ratio really becomes apparent. Enjoy!!!
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  9. redreuben
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    redreuben redreuben

    C’mon Freddy, you know the rules. If there’s no photos it didn’t happen.
     
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