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Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by oldsailor7, Jul 22, 2009.

  1. freddyj
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    freddyj Senior Member

    Hardwood it is! Thanks for the replies.

    Fred
     
  2. freddyj
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    freddyj Senior Member

    Fiberglassing the bottom.
     

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  3. redreuben
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    redreuben redreuben

  4. Tom.151
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    Tom.151 Senior Member

    Great resource, thanks for that reference.

    There's also a clever "non-math, non-computer" solution that works very simply.

    Make a pattern of the exact shape you want to reproduce.
    Figure out the best router depth to use for the pattern.
    Make a disk that has the radius of the router depth setting.
    Put a pencil/pen/scribe/nail at the center of the disk.
    Place the pattern on whatever material you will be using for the router guide plates.
    Then, simply scribe an outline onto the router guide plates by rolling your disk along the shape of the pattern while marking the new shape through the center of the roller.
    Now you can cut out the router guide plates to the line/scribe mark.
    Done.

    I think it's an old fashioned pattern-maker's trick.

    Cheers,
    TomH
     
  5. bruceb
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    bruceb Senior Member

    A different way

    First, if you go with wood core, don't use ply, it has no place in a foil.
    On my last foils I have built, I have found a foam foil blank has saved lots of effort, and the results are superior to what "usually" results from home foil construction. It is also very light and the shape can be almost perfect, including different top and bottom profiles, and for a-boards assymetric shapes. "Flying Foam", along with other suppliers will cut shapes up to 8' long to order from decent foam, I make a center rib/beam cutaway on my table saw and then glass/carbon fiber cover it. If you can vacuum bag, it is even better and lighter, but not necessary.
    I plan on building a new 24"x 114" board for my 33 this winter. I wouldn't think of building it any other way.
    B
     
  6. Marmoset
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    Marmoset Senior Member

    Ya gotta love foam! So easy to work with, two templates and your done. I have a 54" Hotwire that makes life easy, but many times I've gone to the sandpaper glued on pvc pipe trick. Just stick pvc on flat table, insert a slat of wood in it that holds it from bending in middle, then use spray adhesive and 60 grit around and keep turning to to stay sharp. Works like a charm. If something is really long, cut foil shape out of a 2x4 then slice it into 3, this gives you ends and middle form to ensure shape. By shaping as on piece of wood all 3 slices are identical.


    Barry
     
  7. bruceb
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    bruceb Senior Member

    Foam is easy

    I agree Barry, I like working with wood, but some things are far easier with foam. I use wood for flat panels, but shaped parts are almost fun to do with foam.
    I do like the hot wire work that Flying Foam and others do. He can use any program to drive his hot wire machine, with a different profile and/or size on either end if you want it tapered and thinned, you just have to specify what you want. His cutter is limited to 8', but it is quite accurate so multiple blanks can be put together to make a larger foil.
    I used to dread the glue ups, sanding and waste with wood blanks, but with pre-cut foam, I can build almost any foil in a couple of days with very little finish sanding. Nice!
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  8. Marmoset
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    Marmoset Senior Member

    yeah, if you need it accurate send it out! haha I've used them before for plugs that have to be perfect. I use a program called compufoil, it generates files they can load right in. and at 8 inches one could even do half foils for a total foil 16 inch thick! Cant think of much other than an actual plane wing at that point!


    Barry
     
  9. freddyj
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  10. bruceb
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    bruceb Senior Member

    Nice find

    Thanks Fred, that was nice- and there looks to be a well tested K-33 that might need a new home.;)
    B
     
  11. oldsailor7
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    oldsailor7 Senior Member

    Bruce.
    How are you getting on with your Crowther 33.:?:
     
  12. Cleveland
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    Cleveland Junior Member

    selling my 24

    its with a heavy heart that I must sell my Buc 24.
    http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/boa/5328379650.html

    I bought it in june and carried out the upgrade to the vertical dagger board. rebuilding the entire case and board. Its been sailing wonderfully. has many nice features, i love sailing it, its very fast, but I realized that if I am going to make it to mexico i need something bigger. Help fund my dreams and make some of your own!

    very nice sails. fully battened main. roller furling jib. 6hp outboard on custom bracket. new running rigging. self tailing winches. very nice custom nets all the way around. I'm hoping it will go to someone who appreciates this special boat!

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  13. Marmoset
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    thats a shame Cleveland! Was thinking bout ya the other day too as I was at ferry building helping a friend, looked over to island and wondered how the boat was doing. What are slip fees like in treasure?



    Barry
     
  14. Cleveland
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    I've been having a blast with it, it's a great boat. Gotta come in real hot to the upwind slip.
    I was lucky to find an end tie at treasure island. It's very reasonable. About 325$ for a 45' slip. I'm keeping the slip though. I'm only selling the boat so I can get something bigger.
     

  15. bruceb
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    bruceb Senior Member

    33 update

    That's a nice looking 24, someone should enjoy it.
    My 33 is ready to launch, if the weather stays decent I will get it transported to the lake and then start assembling it. I expect the process to take me at least a week, not counting weather and unexpected issues, but it is going to happen soon.
    B
     
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