Buccaneer 24 Builders Forum

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by oldsailor7, Jul 22, 2009.

  1. outside the box

    outside the box Previous Member

    Hi there.
    What mast are you looking at running standard or race oriented?
    Your sail weight could\would quite possibly be on the light air side for the Buc 24 also.
    If you are wanting 11mtr carbon wing plans for the Buc we could supply plans.
    For low tec glass ply or ply Gary Baigent has posted full details on here of his tried tested proven masts.
    Cheers
    Toby and the Ezifold team
     
  2. outside the box

    outside the box Previous Member

    Further updates on the Buc 24 test mule just posted in the usual place . We have also just printed another 5 plan sets with four left having supplied 11 sets. There is life in the Buc yet with people being especially interested in the freshen up plans.
    https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?v=timeline&id=212821925457790&_rdr
    Have a great night.
    Toby and the Ezifold team
     
  3. Marmoset
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    Marmoset Senior Member

    like the forward sweep you have going there on the plans, can't wait to see it all come together. And that dinghy looks like it's begging for a peppy little outboard! Haha bet it's faster than it looks.


    Barry
     
  4. Ooks
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    Ooks Ian

    Apologies if this has been (undoubtedly) asked before, but I could not find it with search function.
    I have seen an estimate of 800hrs for a B24 Build, does anyone have an estimate of approx cost for materials - to sailing stage.
     
  5. Marmoset
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    Marmoset Senior Member

    Just got done doing first peruse of 24 plans, cnc wouldn't matter here really, bulkheads are dead simple and there's just not that many. Just a quick look I don't see why round bilge couldn't be added, tad more muscle doing it on floats of course but still, 3/16 thick ply should be easy enough. Maybe even 2 layers of 1/8 on float bottoms to give a bit more meat to blend chine in?



    Barry
     
  6. oldsailor7
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    oldsailor7 Senior Member

    Barry. Why bother with round bilge on the B24. Its multi chine bottom is so near round that it doesn't matter. That fact has been proven. :rolleyes:
    Also why go to the extra work, time and cost, of two layers of 1/8th ply on the bottom, 1/4" ply is just fine.
    The thicknesses of ply, and other structural Dms Lock specifies have proved, over 45 years, to be effective and durable.
    Really, the only mod needed to the original design is to the dagger board. The designed one works perfectly, but the tapered blade and sloping box allows water to spray in at high speed or rough water. A simple vertical dagger case with a dagger that has parallel edges, and glass/resin fixed seals at top and bottom, cures that. :cool:
    There is no need for the spinnaker pole. A modern "Prodder" with an asymmetric spinnaker will do for both racing and cruising..
    The designed mainsail is fine. It is fully battened. A fat head or square top mainsail would be better, with no need to alter the mast. If you use an elliptical mast section, it is better on a rotating base. A round section tube mast, (as recommended) is OK for all but the most fanatical racing sailor.
    As for the extended rear end---the same applies.:p
     
  7. Marmoset
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    Marmoset Senior Member

    Your right for sure! i really couldn't agree more it's perfect as is, looks build, simplicity. And it was the almost round bilges now that gave me the thought. If they are almost already there, why not ditch any extra seams to tape, and shape, for maybe an extra sheet (or 4!)and some extra clamp work, could have a bottom done faster and one partish. I mean look at it like a turtle deck upside down, wouldn't a fat one sheet wrap be easier than 3 big blocks still needing shaping?


    Barry
     
  8. outside the box

    outside the box Previous Member

  9. outside the box

    outside the box Previous Member

    Hi Barry
    If we thought there was the need to change the underwater lines to rounded sections we would have. As OS7 rightly states as designed it will perform a large range of sailing needs for all but those wanting to push the envelope beyond the design capabilities.
    Toby
     
  10. outside the box

    outside the box Previous Member

    Barry
    If you are intent on changing things up while retaining all things simplistic in the build perhaps the freshened plans may work better for your build.
    Toby
     

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  11. Marmoset
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    Marmoset Senior Member

    That's looking good! Love the smoth seat treatment! And I hear you all loud and clear! I , just figured if there was no real penalty I could make the build go little quicker. And I'm keeping an eye on refreshed plans, maybe for the next one for when I'm leaving the kids behind for some fun! Course I'll have to make a double decker rack in the side yard! But for now keeping my eye on the prize, get one done first. That's why I like to ask questions now and sort it out, not smart to guess or add engineering mid build! Get a plan get the info, start and finish. Which is why I'm not poorly plodding at it right now, got a bit of remodeling of house to finish, then I can concentrate on it. I will however have a shop that I use quite a bit for cabinet and stair work hammer out some parts for me, as well as cnc some strong back parts for me. They also have the bed to wholesale scarf sheets for me. Matter of fact I'm gonna do a deal with them to buy some bead and cove bits for them for later use making cedar strips.


    Barry
     
  12. outside the box

    outside the box Previous Member

    Barry it sounds like you have it well planned.
    A bit of scale to the project was included today as we head into stage 3 of the mock up.
    https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=212821925457790&ref=bookmark
    Enjoy your build and please keep us posted so we can share it on our site also.
    Regards Toby and the Team at Ezifold Yachts.
     

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  13. Marmoset
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    Marmoset Senior Member

    Looking good. Different curves on beams messed with my eyes at first, but I like it! And yeah I'll share for sure, seems a nice step by step is needed cause I looked everywhere to no avail! Just not a lot of bucc build pics period out there.


    Barry
     
  14. bruceb
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    bruceb Senior Member

    results!

    Nice work on the mock up OTB! The "New Buc" looks nice, and a lot more modern-although the old one looks just fine also. :)
    Bruce
     

  15. outside the box

    outside the box Previous Member

    Hi Bruce
    Thanks for that, yes for our test program we are quite happy and yes the original lines were just great. The freshened plans are a midway point of the two.
    Nice float progress on yours and will get that other information to you soon we haven't forgotten just very busy.
    Regards
    Toby and the Ezifold team
     
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