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Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by oldsailor7, Jul 22, 2009.

  1. oldsailor7
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    You don't have to contribute, just ask some questions.
     
  2. PHTCA
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    Guys do You have some interior pictures of the buccaneer? I am like jodie foster in the movie CONTACT trying to imagine the machine i will build from plans. If building pictures too better but mainly to see the real interior of the buccaneers.
    And, as my FIRST choice to perform a big cruiser is to circunnavigate sud-América which is better to CAP HORNOS a buccaneer 28, a 30-35 Catamaran or a 48 foot skerry cruiser monohull?
     
  3. oldsailor7
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    Sorry PHTCA I don't have any pics of the interior.
    However the plans show a galley position at the front crossbeam station.
    In my B24 I placed a two burner alcohol stove, and a "Porta Sink" there.
    The dagger board as shown in the plans is perfectively effective, but suffers from water penetration from the top of the box at high speed.
    I cured this by making the CB vertical, with a rectangular plan form, and parallel edges. Placed vertically with it's box back edge in line with frame 5, and braced across the top
    with a 2"x18" plank meeting the middle side stringer, it makes a nice seat.
    The dagger board box is sealed with a form fitting F/Glass strip top and bottom.
    This prevents water circulation in the dagger box, which together with a cap on the top of the board, keeps the interior dry. This mod was approved by Lock Crowther himself and worked well for me.
     
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  4. PHTCA
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    OS7, do you think, in your modest opinion, that a B28 or SCARAB32 could be a good and safe boat, build as SPARTIAN as possible, to perform a 25-30 days trip for 2 or 3 person around SOUTH-AMERICA, including CAPE HORNOS? i was talking with other guys with a lot of experience in the boat world, NOT BUILDERS, just user, and we are trying to prepare a south america circumnavigation, and if the wheater is OK CAPE HORNOS, if not, MAGALLANES, but, they says MONOHULL and i say TRIMARAN (Around 12 knots vs 6 mono, I HOPE) and as SCARAB are Fiberglass, is OK, but, I ALSO love B28, so, what do you think? (NO compromise)
     
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    PHTCA
    Either would be fine, provided they were built strongly.
    There is no reason why the Bucc 28 can't be built in foam/fibreglass the same as the Scarab.
    What is critical with the tri is "sailing safe" to avoid inversion/capsize.
    Reef early, slow down, seek shelter - especially in the high latitudes.
    A mono might roll completely over, but a multi only ever goes 180deg, and from that point on, in those latitudes, you are in "survival mode".
    So means to enter the hull when inverted would be crucial, as would sealable ports and companionway, plus a bilge pump that could be reversed to pump from the roof to the keel as these are reversed when inverted.
    Plus well-sealed food containers etc etc.
    Read Jim Brown's 'The Case for the Crusing Trimaran' as there is a lot of good advice in it on this subject.
     
  6. oldsailor7
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    I have sailed a B28 in the worst conditions you can possibly imagine.
    Short of a rogue wave which could engulf any boat (think of the conditions which sank the Pamir, a huge steel mono square rigger),
    a B28 or B33 should be OK for rounding the cape, providing the Amas were tightly waterproofed.
    Just MHO. :cool:
     
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  7. buzzman
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    Rogue waves are more common in the high latitudes such he is proposing to sail in, and especially near Cape Horn.

    A mono will roll right over, a multihull won't. It's simple physics. Ergo, one needs to be able to manage once inverted, until either one is rescued, or the weather moderates enough to attempt a re-version.

    Frankly, lying ahull with a multi-cone drogue would be preferable to trying to sail and being flipped over, and that goes for mono or multi.
     
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    Thanks RR.
    That's a great shot. It shows the original plan CB installation with the required canvas spray protection, but no galley cupboard and counter installed.
     
  10. PHTCA
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    Guys, BUCCANEER is the way.
    Other questions.
    1- As i will build it fiberglass, all desk in the pictures will be build FG, maybe foam FG, so, no problem with strong of the hull?
    2- I am 6'4" and weight almost 240 lbs, may i up the top or with the original hight i will be confortable?
    3- Who sell, TRADE (I can send IPHONE 4 or KINDLE 3G) or share B33 plans? Because i read somewhere the MINIMAL lenght is 32 to be a SAFE OFFSHORE boat.
     
  11. buzzman
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    PHTC
    There are boats from 6ft long that have sailed successfully offshore, never mind 28ft or 33ft.
    Unless you're a pygmy then less than 6ft is probably too uncomfortable, so I conclude that is the MINIMUM length....
    You can make the interior height whatever you like...just increase the loft of the panels as you build.
     
  12. outside the box

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    Finally with health issues stabilized for now we continue the work at home in the warm. Photo's of it on it's designated trailer etc are in the normal place on the feared FB site. Just search Ezifold Yachts on Face Book and it will come up.
    Bruce B I found the remainder of the file I sent you on the actuation and lock mechanism if you would like it sent through all good if you have gone down another road.
     
  13. oldsailor7
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    Bruce.
    You are nearing the end of your summer season, and I was wondering if you have had a good summer of sailing and especially in racing, with your B24. :D
     
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    the cabin is small


    I am the same size, and the cabin in my Bucc (I believe MKII cabin) is a tight squeeze for me. I can not fully extend fore/aft. I suppose you could make it work for an extended cruise, if you didn't mind feeling like a sardine... or just build it longer from the start. IMHO, I would reduce the cabin length to just aft of the dagger case, and fashion a removable double bunk port/stbd over the case. The standard cockpit is very small for three people our size and that much weight aft dips the stern.
     
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