Brick and Mortar as Boat Building, Construction Material

Discussion in 'Materials' started by mustafaumu sarac, Jan 15, 2018.

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  1. mustafaumu sarac
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    mustafaumu sarac Senior Member

    Few minutes ago , I found an brick mortar built boat picture at facebook discussions. Located in Buffalo New York Seven Seas marina.

    NOW , This is big , very big thing. Ferrocement construction and steel rods are still very expensive for me. But high quality concrete or earth bricks are extremelly cheap.

    Please , laugh if you want but lets discuss the strenght of the method. Please keep thread technical.

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  2. fallguy
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    I spent my whole life understanding bricks to be porous.

    The mortar here starts to fail and doesn’t withstand freeze/thaw.
     
  3. TANSL
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    Are you sure that the sides are built with bricks, or is it a decorative exterior layer? .
     
  4. mustafaumu sarac
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    TANSL I checked the facebook and they are talking about wall paper covering but I cant confirm.
     
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    The pictured boat is not really built of bricks. And there is no technical solution to build a boat out of bricks.
     
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    Mortar is a material which provides a lot of firmness against pressure load, but is weak against tensile load and bending load. You can construct a building with only little tensile and bending load, but not a boat.
     
  7. mustafaumu sarac
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    what about epoxy filler in place of mortar and white concrete foam as brick. Or wood bricks and epoxy ? I think herreshoff planned and built a canoe where every wood piece were on other and brick like construction. than sand and fair.

    I am thinking , there are long wood pieces 3 inches x 3 x 2 meters been sold at stores.

    cutting bricks from that wood is easy. transportation and construction is easy.
     
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    The problem with experimentation is that it is almost never cheaper than convention.

    Where are you located; perhaps some forum members could provide lower cost solutions.
     
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    I am from Istanbul and studied every convention for here.
     
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    There are many other conventions. Why concrete?
     
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    post #1 picture . . .
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    I'm afraid someone has misunderstood ‘‘Brick Slips’’ for ‘‘Brick Ships’’, but then since the Brick Slips were already ordered, has glued them onto an old GRP hull to have a decorative Brick Ship anyway . . :)


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    P.S. - - Those brick slips walls are to be grouted as with normal brick masonry, after which they look the same.​
     
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  12. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    If you have to ask why not brick construction (veneer or otherwise), then the best advise you can receive is continuing your education in engineering, as there are several mostly obvious reasons, this can't work on a boat.

    FWIW, veneers (slips) are more expensive than regular bricks, by a fair margin. In the above image, it's being applied with construction adhesive, over a preformed lath, which has raised ridges for the veneer placement. This is why there's no "story board" at the corners to keep the courses straight. It costs a lot more to apply a brick surface this way. You save a small amount in labor, but lose a lot in materials. Lastly, one of the best benefits about a real brick facade is the thermal mass it provides the exterior walls, which you get little of with a veneer wall, though admittedly the insulated, poured concrete walls on the job above, will do very well in this regard.
     

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    Aside from the structural inadequacy of a brick boat, there is the reality of surface roughness. Bricks and mortar would be as harmful as heavy barnacle encrustation which is not good.
     
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