Boat building in progress

Discussion in 'Metal Boat Building' started by evantica, Feb 15, 2010.

  1. evantica
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    evantica Senior Member

    Hi there. My name is Hakan Newly registered at "Boatdesign.net". I started my project a couple of yeras ago, it laid still for awhile and now I'm on to it more motivated than ever! This gonna be a "around-the-world" sailor... Gonna keep you updated if interested, would appriciate thoughts, and tips and so on...Maybe I can attach some pic's..hm...
     

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    interesting boat...is that pilot house also made of steel plates?..It is hard to tell..that is quite the pilot house...As long as you have enough ballast down low I think you will do okay...should bounce right back up in a knockdown as long as evrything is fairly watertight...what kind of engines...can you tell us more about your project? and good luck!
     
  3. evantica
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    Souljour 2000... Thanks for answer. The pilot house you see on the "lowerleft photo" is the original boat, wich I have used as a "Model". So myboat is going to be a "kind of" C.Archer cutter and NOT with that pilothousing at all. The original boat was built in oak,1902 at RÅÅ in Helsingborg as a "Lots cutter" called "Lill-lots". Today-before I posted any treads here. I have lifted off the steel shell from the wooden one. I will post pics so you'll see for your self. I am pleased with the result...
     
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    Here's a fresh pic' from today.
     

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    wow!...a beautiful shell of welded steel plates...waiting for the rest to fill her in...nice shaped boat...you can do whatever you want to her practically...I don't know much formal boatbuilding but whatever steel truss and stringers and scantlings you make ...use good steel and I would try to get them powder coated I guess...then she oughta last thru the apocalypse and onward thru time......do as much research as you can...should be a lot of folks in here with way more experience with steel than I have...(not saying alot really)...keep us informed...
     
  6. Itchy&Scratchy
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    Itchy&Scratchy Senior Member

    Very nice evantica
    Good idea to use the original boat as a 'pattern'

    What rigging do you intend for her?
     
  7. evantica
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    Most of all I would like a Gaff rigg, but think it's a bit to messy to deal with, also if short handed. so a traditional Bermudan is most likely.
    I would like to hear from "you" about some protection on the steelhull, paint or what? But I also have a lot to weld so... Purhapse it's better to wait?
    someone have some knowledge on this subject???
     
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    and thanks for the comments friends! Appriciate it!
     
  9. evantica
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    "Mother & son":p Look at all the snow:mad: Hard to do anything
     

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    "Some light in the dark" :D the only positive thing is that the hull is Watertight :p When all the snow melted, it filled her up with water...
    "Not much, but something"
     

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  11. KajWestergard
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    KajWestergard Junior Member

    Hi evantica,
    What a fascinating way to build a steelboat :)

    As to the painting, You should sandblast after You have done all the welding,
    then on with several coats of epoxy paint.
    After the epoxy You have several options, but You don´t need to know them for a couple of years :)

    If You are on a tight budget and/or sailing alone maybe You should look up the Junk rig.

    Are You going to have an engine in the boat ?
     
  12. evantica
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    Hi Kaj! and thanks for comment. The reason for building this way: I have a Långedragmarin drawing, I actually had a complete hull (bare hull of 40 foot ) But realized I would never afford to put her together. Their hull is built up side down over a "jig". So I have this great Lots cutter, a wooden one. so I did the same, started to "klä" and after a year or so it was finished. A nice hull (if I may say so)... About the Junkrigg..hm not impossible have to learn mor eabout it (I've read about Hassler and the Jester and so = many junkriggs Is it easy to handle then??? About the engine... Maybe, maybe not haven't desided yet. Don't see it as a must. As you may have found out I like those ol' time sea faerer! DO you have a boat if so what kind?
     
  13. KajWestergard
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    To answer Your last question first;
    -No, I don´t have a boat for now, I´m building a three-room floating apartment that I intend to take down to the European canals.

    Everybody on this site is "good", I think/suppose they answer with their own honest opinion and I agree with those who think it´is silly
    to build a boat without proper plans.
    You are bound to waste material and time.
    I should know, I´m building a 18 meters x 4,5 meters floating box without plans. :)

    There is an article in an old "Praktiskt Båtägande" (=Practical Boatbuilding in swedish) about a guy who built a steelboat with junk rig, if I remember correctly he said his rig cost 150,000 swedish , compared to around 500,000:- for a Bermudan rig for the same boat. (this was a big boat with two masts)

    A junk rig is very easily handled by one person.
    The disadvantages with junk rig are the look (for some) the quantity of "spaghetti" on deck and (as some say) the upwind characteristics (they do not go upwind like a bermudan if You don´t design the rig for upwind work
    but if You do that You loose some of the simplicity of the design.

    Most "accomplished" sailors can´t stand the rig
    (maybe that´s one good reason to build one :) )
    "Arne" in Norway (=the Yahoo junk rig group)
    knows everything there is to know about junk rig.
    The two common books are Hasler and McLeod "Practical Junk rig"
    and the lesser known "The Chinese Sailing Rig" by Derek van Loan
     
  14. evantica
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    evantica Senior Member

    oki doki and thanks. good luck with your f"loating home"
     

  15. evantica
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    evantica Senior Member

    Today I got her/he/ the hull/ home at my place, gonna be easier to continue building from now on. Besides that a BEAUTIFUL DAY today:p
    Still think it's a nice shaped hull:D
     

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