Best Marine Design Software for Hull Modeling? (2008-09)

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Which program(s) do you use as your primary hull design software?

  1. Autoship (Autoship Systems Corporation)

    13 vote(s)
    6.2%
  2. Catia

    9 vote(s)
    4.3%
  3. DefCar (DefCar Engineering)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Delftship

    28 vote(s)
    13.4%
  5. Fastship (Proteus Engineering)

    2 vote(s)
    1.0%
  6. HullCAO (HullCAO)

    1 vote(s)
    0.5%
  7. Hull Form (Blue Peter Marine Systems)

    2 vote(s)
    1.0%
  8. Maxsurf (Formation Design Systems)

    59 vote(s)
    28.2%
  9. MultiSurf (Aerohydro)

    10 vote(s)
    4.8%
  10. Naval Designer

    2 vote(s)
    1.0%
  11. Prolines (Vacanti Yacht Design)

    4 vote(s)
    1.9%
  12. ProSurf (New Wave Systems)

    3 vote(s)
    1.4%
  13. Rhino (Robert McNeel & Assoc.)

    53 vote(s)
    25.4%
  14. SeaSolution

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  15. TouchCAD

    5 vote(s)
    2.4%
  16. Other (please post below)

    18 vote(s)
    8.6%
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  1. CGN
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    CGN Senior Member

    Powershape??...i tried the free version nothing but crashes, memory hog and feels like is not finished or polished, reminds me of ashlar vellum.

    If the cost is close to catia does not means is good IMO it's almost as stealing :)
     
  2. Protosys
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    Protosys Junior Member

    hi CGN,
    i am not saying its the best software ever. but i work with it almost for 5 years and i think is far best that most in the list above. example: to make fillets in a complex hull for CNC machinning i take about 15 min. in rhino or most softwares its a matter of days... but i must aggree that its not the most stable platform in the world :)
     
  3. Guest625101138

    Guest625101138 Previous Member

    I use Godzilla for underwater hull generation to specified constraints; Michlet for performance determination; Delftship/Freeship for hull rendering and hydrostatic calculations.

    I also make use of Excel for more flexible transfer and manipulation of data.

    I have found a very useful little program for viewing different 3D formats called PS-Exchange. The software allows me to view different file formats and a pay-for-use conversion to another format.

    Rick W.
     
  4. PI Design
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    PI Design Senior Member

    We're about to start using Paramarine.
     
  5. CGN
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    CGN Senior Member

    Rick, how much they charge for translation of a file?

    What files you translate?
     
  6. Protosys
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    Protosys Junior Member

    PS exchange

    this are the files Ps exchange can translate from-to:

    ACIS
    AutoCAD
    CATIA
    Cimatron
    Cimatron Elite
    DGK
    DMT
    I-DEAS
    IGES
    Inventor
    Parasolid
    PowerShape Parts
    PDF
    Pro/Engineer
    Rhino
    SolidEdge
    SolidWorks
    STEP
    STL
    U3D
    Unigraphics
    VDA-FS

    the price is 50€ per translation. if you are interested please let me know.
     
  7. CGN
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    CGN Senior Member

    Thanks i was asking rick because maybe Viacad can work for him for 100us it can read and translate most of the neutral files
     
  8. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    The apps rick uses are open source or freeware - I have them too...
     
  9. CGN
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    CGN Senior Member

    No the PS-Exchange, you can install it and use it as a viewer but when you need to translate a file then you need to pay, all i was suggesting is that for neutral formats (read-modify-write) viacad can be an alternative instead of paying for translation Viacad cost about 100 bucks and does the job.
     
  10. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    Ahhh so... Thanks, that was understood.
     
  11. Guest625101138

    Guest625101138 Previous Member

    The download is free and this allows you to view the files and print images from the screen dump. I have not yet needed to convert a file. You can set up an account on the web.

    It handles about 20 different formats. I have found a couple that it does not look at but it does most of the common CAD formats.

    Rick
     
  12. nautique210
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    nautique210 wake master

    so why no Alias users? I find it so much better for surfaces and visualization than Rhino, but it seems to be so popular here.
     
  13. CGN
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    CGN Senior Member

    I will guess mainly because the cost and is quite prohibitive among user in the forum, I know is good with surfacing and visualizations but i don't think it has all the tools and specific plug ins that may attract users to switch to Alias also IMO seems like a memory hog compared with Rhino and another reason may be that the interface is similar to AutoCad and i know for my experience was very easy to start using it (rhino)

    Not a bad product at all but IMO rhino is "leaner" and easier to learn for newbies, and in regard of visualization i don't think it matters that much, all you need your renderings are to sell the idea and/or present a concept,

    For general ideas "in the fly" like "how do you like this arrangement?" why would you waste the client time and specially money presenting elaborated rendering for simple concepts that all they need is an screen capture of a 3D mock up, I mean it will be nice to have it all in one click but is not happening like that in an affordable way.
     
  14. nautique210
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    nautique210 wake master

    hey, i agree totally with what you say. just with the visualization, i mean in creating a higher quality surface and associated tools to help achieve that, all long after the concept is finalized.
     

  15. 3dyachts
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    3dyachts Senior Yacht Designer

    where is Fastship???

    Sorry, but since the question concerns "hull design software", I think it should mention Fastship (or Fastyacht), which is not part of Rhino but of Rhino Marine bundle.
    Rhino is not - and not intended as - a hull design software per se, although using the same NURBS as Fastship/ yacht, since it lacks the basic hydrostatic calculations. Moreover, Fastship/ yacht will ensure more fair shape than Rhino, the control points system being different.
    So, sorry floks: I cannot vote...!
     
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