Basalt fiber

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  1. Mr Efficiency
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    That will be interesting to see.
     
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    Basalt is very close to the physical properties of S-glass and both are much better than E-glass which is the stuff normally used. Basalt wetouts with epoxy easier compared to glass. Mixing with carbon is a bad idea be it glass or basalt. Mixing glass and basalt is ok. I've been using basalt many years now.

    BR Teddy
     
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    Thank you. Hey what is your feelings on using g gladgicil? I like it as a forming tool.
     
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    Hi I was curious as to the strength of the pvc?
     
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    Questions from an ignorant: Could you find in Google the mechanical properties of a basalt laminate? I refer to a panel formed by basalt fabrics or mats, not a fiber. With this we would have a basis to calculate necessary thicknesses, reinforcements, better method for joining panels with their refinforcements ... What is the appropriate working method with this material, atmospheric conditions, environmental humidity degree, ... It would be of great help to stop being ignorant. Thanks in advance.
     
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    I didn't understand 6 words of words of what you said
     
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    I don't think TANSLs comment is the least bit off. In my comments earlier, I suggested being a google wizard doesn't really mean much. There is simply not a large amount of data on basalt and that is fair. Basaltex is probably the best source of information and of course they are a vendor, so unlikely they would condemn it. The interesting thing I think about basalt, and I could be wrong, but it looks like they are marketing it as lighter fabric with the same weight as fiberglass. So 800g fiberglass is same as 720g basalt for strength, but you save 80g per sm? The other thing is I believe basalt is toxic to skin, but anymore than fiberglass? Not sure. I have some fiberglass in my fingers as I type. I read a couple of MSDS sheets on basalt fibers and to be honest; they looked suspicious as basalt itself is listed as carcinogenic by Martin Marietta, but the fibers from a Moscow based producer are not? Strange that heating it up would make it inert.

    Anyhow, perhaps the entrenched fiberglass industry suppressed basalt successfully and it is a better product. One things for sure; you aren't going to burn it.
     
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    Well, it certainly needs to be cleared of being carcinogenic to be gaining acceptance.
     
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    As you are aware; fiberglass has hundreds of studies that discover the lungs expel the fibers; unlike asbestos. This is precisely why tansl is not at all outta line.

    still hate it in the webs of my fingers
     
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    Hey good morning . Let me open by stating that I am terribly sorry for my response to which one I'm unsure. I was not at all stating that at you. Please feel free to continue as that was incredibly bad timing
     
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    Hi I am hoping that I'm answering the rite post. The comment I made about the post had nothing to do with anyone in this room. My daughter.just came in the room talking some sort of words and I had to correct it
     
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    I don't understand why MM lists basalt rock as a carcinogen. All other googling suggests otherwise. However, basalt is listed as causing silicosis which is as deadly as cancer by the company that listed the stone non-cancerous. And, of course, none of this is necessarily referring to a finished fabric. Basalt contains 70% or more silica.
     

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    surely he meant "of what you said" ? :eek:
     
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