arctic ice increases 60%

There is an interesting thread on Cruisers Forum where Evans Starzinger is following (and assisting?) some boats trying to complete the North West Passage this year. Much more difficult than last year! Some boats have turned back. Some have followed an icebreaker through congested choke points. It appears that those east-bound have cleared the worst ice, but the west-bound boats may still be in limbo. Always a risk of getting iced-in and having to complete the passage next year, or even having to abandon ship. As you read through the posts it is interesting to see how the ice changes from day to day, partly through melting (and now freezing), but even more so due to where the wind shoves the ice.

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f33/northwest-passage-ice-2013-a-108962.html

 

You should find this interesting: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/en...o-actually-were-cooling-claim-scientists.html

 

ESA's Cryosat mission observes continuing Arctic winter ice decline | BBC

 

It is going to be a cold winter.

 

Weather is unpredictable. More important is the year on year...decade on decade trend

 

Artic ice 60% more

No this is an interesting tid-bit that some have been expecting.
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/09/20/warming-lull-since-18-haunts-climate-change-authors/

 

Arctic's Hudson Bay Warming Rapidly, at Tipping Point | NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC

 

By 2047, Coldest Years May Be Warmer Than Hottest in Past | NEW YORK TIMES

 

Just make sure your kool-aid is cold.

 

CIA cool-aid is always cold ....

And Cleopatra's palace is 100 feet under water .... shows how much ice has REALLY melted over the last 2,000 years.

 

Once again El Guero prefers wishful thinking to verifiable facts.

Cleopatra's Palace Found

Alexandria | WIKIPEDIA

 

Wiki?

All around the Black Sea and the Med they are finding sunken cities, either the entire eur-af-asian continent is sinking, or ice has melted. Or, something else we cannot measure.

"Reconstructing the huge rise at the end of the last glacial (120 meters) " 390 feet for US.

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2011/06/2000-years-of-sea-level/

More than wishful, I study this. If any 'global warming - aka Al Gore admirers, including Al Gore' believed in this, they would have gone to China and India and reduced CO2 output at the source. Mankind is only adding a small amount of the carbon .... You could cut Earth's balance back to ZERO by cutting emissions in Asia, without hurting their economies.

Why is that wishful thinking traditional men can figure out the problem and how to fix it, and all the kings horses and all the kings men can only tell us the sky is falling down?

 

And we have ancient sea shore 200m up the fjell. Stil rising some 0,8m/century...

 

Yes.

It is funny when you study the 'science' of the 'scientists.'

400 years ago, there was global cooling and sea levels sank for centuries. Then it turned the other direction, BEFORE the advent of man introduced CO2, which btw has only had an effect for about 60 years, before that man did not contribute enough emissions to make the dent we are making now.

Written differently, 60 years ago, less than half as many people in the industrial world were producing significantly less CO2 than just China and India do now.

Amazing what globalization of the American economy did to the environment, bring the jobs back, and watch the CO2 levels drop.

 

Alaska sinks as climate change thaws permafrost | USA TODAY

On Aug. 26, a worker with the Alaska Department of Transportation secures sheets of polystyrene insulation to a road in Fairbanks, Alaska, that was damaged by permafrost thawing and will be repaved on top of the insulation. The sheets will minimize thawing in the future.