APACHE is BACK!!!

Discussion in 'Powerboats' started by sharkeymarine, Jul 15, 2002.

  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Bobby= Warpath

    Thad= Warpathetic

    Quantum Warpathetic, that has quite a ring to it !
     
  2. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Guest your equation is wrong Look I will help..

    Kramer+Kramers $/Aronow/Bobby/Eichert/Mcmanus = Warpath+ Jerry K’s Name Apache = Apache.

    Now Thad=Class+#1Team Effort+$+$+New ApacheCompany+DigitalAge+OldWarpathlinese+CNC = Warpath 2004

    You get that Guest or did it run down your sloping forehead.
     
  3. War Whoop
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    Oops that was Myself cleaned Machine and Passwords went.
     
  4. Doug Carlson
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    Jeff,

    This post might be better suited to OPEN DISCUSSION but this is the thread that prompts it.

    It seems to me that all positive or negative posts that refer to specific companies, products, or individuals but do do not bear attribution should be automatically deleted from the forum. I realize "automatic" actually means that you would have to review and decide, but I suspect it would only take a short time before most of this useless testosterone venting would go elsewhere.

    I think unattributed affirmations and criticisms of processes, theories, etc. are acceptable as they can contribute to a free flowing exchange of ideas and information. In these instances, its up to the reader to ascertain their validity.

    This is an outstanding forum both in content and form. This suggestion is only an attempt to help maintain its high standards.
     
  5. Jeff
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    Jeff Moderator

    I think you're correct Doug. I don't mind a few guest posts at all, but now with this thread in particular we have 4 pages of posts by ‘guest’ which is down right confusing and not very productive either I fear.

    From this point forward, if your post is critical or argumentative only (without a good amount of factual information) please either take two seconds to register and create a username or at least sign your name at the end of your post.


    Posts by "guest" with no name attached which don’t contain any facts or detailed information will be deleted from here forward.
     
  6. SailDesign
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    SailDesign Old Phart! Stay upwind..

    Thanks, Jeff....
     
  7. duluthboats
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    :D
     
  8. Guest

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    Wow after this it stopped, who would figure ?
     
  9. War Whoop
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    Thanks Jeff:)

    And my Best Regards
     
  10. War Whoop
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    I see some reposting to other sites being done out of context from this thread...
    Then sure enough the Chicken Little phenomenon makes itself evident...

    Look Guests if you have a problem reading and this includes you legends as well !! Just ask and someone will help you with the words... Because Just how in the hell did this get changed to the below??


    Whoah Mr. Guest no disrespect intended; but Thad Allen is the second coming of Apache. Mr. Kramer got the BALL really rolling then there was the period of inaptitude as the Crooked Lumpy Resin Bucket Over weight over Priced Junk Purveyors Put the Indian to sleep Big time..

    Or This:




    Oh my God where do I start with this misguided person??

    Exactly who in the hell do you think you are talking too here Mr. Guest You are seriously misinformed. Here; and do not take my reply as a slam to anyone.

    Look for the record I do not hurl insults, only the truth. Comanche I do not know them but have seen their product. The Old Kramer Apaches Never!! They were an effort to make the Best... Now Powerplay and Active Thunder I am Friends with Danny and Pat… they build fine Boats BTW Next STUPID CONJECTURE???

    Oh Now the Interim Apache going into the New!!We had differences yes! Like wanting me to pass an Inferior Boat on to the new owner... THAT’S IT!!! NOW MYSIDE you have already spoke...

    Glass Houses OK Lets see I Deal in Reasons so be very careful about your challenging me. Ok here is what the Experts did...

    How about 5 Drums of resin going into a 36 foot hull with only about 900 pounds of glass reinforcement 2000 would have been more like it but STILL we are not building Battering rams here..

    How about never mixing Gel coat and using 6 gallons for a 12 gallon Job...

    How about cutting the Primary reinforcement at the Steps (another Joke) and splicing it with a piece of Mat...

    How about 75 Gallons of resin in the deck where a total nincompoop could of did the job with 50...

    How about using Cheap Polyester Resin in an Alleged ultra high Performance Boat...1/2 the Strength but half the cost so guess what??

    For you see in my own world of World Champion/Award winning boat building we achieve 70/30 Glass Resin as a rule. These Famous guys are not on the same planet....

    Ok to Continue;
    The inner liner on that Boat was around another 65 Gallons...again some mat and roven and cheap coring held in place with crude weights.

    Ok the core Job Hull had to be ripped out and redone Foot prints in the Lamanite...Cheap unrated core materials were used through out... The Bullcrap step was out of whack in fact a Boat with it filled in ran 3 MPH faster!! But Big Deal 1150 HP 36 Feet = 83 MPH LOL Get real...

    Now Guest I suppose you think I should have not said anything and let it pass as one by my hand... Nope never!!! A resin bucket Boat yes what do you think?? Like where is the Glass??? I will never Approve such a thing..

    That Boat is one Crooked POS and will never be sold, Want the Pictures oh Man I have them???? Continuing again...

    The thousand complaints fell on deaf ears the Experts always know better EVEN with the Fact they NEVER Built a boat personally only Talk big..... A Status report was sent by me outlining my concerns...

    But you see a funny thing the TRUTH!! It is always there... and comes back to bite... now continuing;

    This Same Bunch set about trying to do the plug work for the new Boat... I got it back on track there was about a 100K’s worth of Incompetence from the Experts we had to overcome.

    Now the Jacket I went to Apache to Pick up some Tools for a friend, Thad Called me back up there and Gave me my Jacket which I was fitted a long while Back for. (A very gentlemanly gesture)The entire War between me and them was a setup. And that became evident while talking everything over with Apache.

    Everything is full speed ahead the Plug is getting fairer by the minute (Look at the pictures in the Site)

    I insulted all the Apache Owners 41-47 ??? NO someone should read more carefully is all and not post a single sentence like an ***... Look to be frank I have seen enough of this we have one of these 36’s on the floor now just a couple years old full of Rotted Plywood... No I take that Back a Belly full Period...

    Be careful I have facts apparently you do not ..and You Owe me an Apology..and I have a lot more Horror storys.

    ab absurdo

    INTO THIS PIECE OF TRIPE Below !! Guess the guy can’not defend his product and chose to lie..Nowhere are Kramer and Mcmanus Slamed except by this guy who needs glasses..

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    This is the twisted result!

    I think a general Apology from me would also be in order to all Apache owners. Regardless of who built what Apache,,,, Kramer / McMannus / Saccenti / Froberg, and all the former Apache employees that put their hearts and hard labor into delivering old antiquated designs, sub-standard CHEAP material, slob resin buckets that are lucky to be floating and allowed to pollute our waterways for so many years. Would you believe somebody would actually say something stupid like that, and for what reason?
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    The answer is above and the guy with the Severe reading problem built that very Boat Described..
     
  11. Doug Carlson
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    War Whoop,

    I for one don't care what "guests" are posting on other forums. If I did, I'd go there.

    My suggestion above was in part to help you excorcise your "guest" ghosts so you could in turn spare us your self defensive rants. Why would you go to other forums and drag that junk here?

    Any chance you could share your apparent knowledge and obviously, strongly, held views with us when you are of a mind and save your WWF style discourse for some other venue?

    Respectfully,

    Doug Carlson
     
  12. War Whoop
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    Doug it bothers me as author...and was only intended to show a point; that being what I am dealing with here in the roving troll/wildlife population.

    It was just an Example Best Regards
    :)

    Maybe a Font change to something they could actually read Like "Ransom Note Gothic" would help the poor dears.
     
  13. sharkeymarine
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    sharkeymarine 2 Fins Up!!

    War Whoop,
    If you see these Roving guys around, send them over to my site. I have a few rolls leftover from doing my molds that I would like to sell. I refuse to build boats out of the stuff....but others might think nothing of it.....;) :D :D
     

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  14. War Whoop
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    Got it Tim LOL And that Mold system produces a Very cool little Boat there. You raced one right?:)
     

  15. sharkeymarine
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    sharkeymarine 2 Fins Up!!

    Oh yeah!!!:D :D :D
     

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