Any thoughts on this concept?

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  1. JD6394
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    Roughing out ideas for a expedition style yacht build. At 130' this is well out of my price range but scaling down the "Navy Destroyer" look to say 60' could be cool and get build cost way down. Any thoughts? In all honesty we will probably end up just ordering a Leapard 45 or a DH550 kit (if I'm glutton for punishment) but it's nice to dream. IMG_0346.JPG
     
  2. Mr Efficiency
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    How does a navy destroyer relate to a pleasure boat ? Not exactly parallel purposes. :eek:
     
  3. JD6394
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    Maybe ya wanna take in the sights off the cost of Somalia? Just thought the concept looked cool is all... The narrow beam should be fuel efficient tho... lol
     
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    BlueBell Ahhhhh...

    Why, how narrow is the beam?
     
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    Flat deck, sides, and bottom, looks like a super easy build!
     
  6. JD6394
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    LOA 130' with a 31' beam... I'm sure it's got some curve under the waterline but very flat overall. That's what got me interested in the overall look. I've owned a fab shop, been a commercial contractor and now we do trucking so I'm not scared of a big project but 60' would be pushing it for me. I don't think it would scale down well. Never built a boat tho but my idea would be to build on cheap river front property inland and launch on the great loop somewhere. Been looking a Diesel Ducks as well.
     
  7. Rurudyne
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    You can still have developed sides that are easy to build with a constant outward angle to the sides. This should make for a dryer boat and a bit more deck space.

    In the 60' range with a narrow hull you may want to look at Bolger's Wyoming or Illinois for layout ideas. Having a slight outward angle as mentioned above might help something like that seem like it's got more shoulder room.

    Have you considered a stabilized monohull, not necessarily for with a super slim main hull but one somewhere between a 6:1 LBW like the Bolger or the 4:1 big version you describe? Kasten' Pennywise is about that size though he describes vision of his styling as more Chinese junk-like: 60' Power Trimaran PENNYWISE http://kastenmarine.com/PowerTrimaran.htm
     
  8. JD6394
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    Thanks for the info. I'll check those designs out. I am very green when it comes to all this so I'm open to experience. Only experience I have offshore is on friends sports fishers. That was our first thought in a big boat and they are very cool but very lousy cruisers... My buddy was bragging last week his new (to him. I think a 08') Viking 68' can troll on a only 12gph... Being in trucking where fuel mileage is everything and wanting to explore the oceans we are looking at trawlers or sail. (I have done a decent bit of costal solo sailing) The idea of building one sounds like a rewarding project although we would hire a few guys to help. It would also be professionally designed as well... As I stated I'm no expert for sure. lol..
     
  9. Rurudyne
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    It has been my observation, generally speaking, that when it comes to boats there are boats for any given level accommodations it seems that there will be few that are both cheap to move and cheap to dock, and those will be either sailboats or slow barges.

    A power boat that can economically cruise at an okay speed (not fast, just okay) like you want will suck down more in docking fees for its accommodations (as you know, usually charge by length) though it may not break the bank to move it while a boat that can sit at the dock like some second apartment is going to suck gas to go anywhere that isn't going slow.

    My cynicism/realism is why when in a thread maybe a couple of years ago asked what was the best boat engine I joked that it was one that ran on electronic funds transfers to the oil companies. The joke seemed to have bombed ... but then a lot of mine do so no big.

    That said, simply because I realize that I couldn't possibly afford a Bolger Wyoming, never mind a stretched 65' take with a bit wider beam and a svelte 7:1 length to beam ratio, I've been thinking about something that's good for minimalistic shallow draft overnight cruising but still fits on a trailer ... and, don't laugh, will have quartherwheel paddlewheels (quarterwheels are far aft but on the sides of the boat) that along with some stabilizing amas swing back behind the boat for trailering. That would put the hull of maybe 30' length, if even that. Probably need some sort of (off center) centerboard to keep from being helplessly blown around by the wind. Be good for skulking around Texas' "rivers".
     
  10. goodwilltoall
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    Half of dimensions would make it 65' x 15.5' which would be easily feasible to design the same type of styling with standing hdrm below throughout. I like the style and have always wondered why there are no such boats out there. Dashew comes close but not quite as pretty also, Artnautica 58
     
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    Those ships are made to go 30+ kph with gargantuan engines. At 65' cruising boat I would like to see a hull with same topsides but blw hull made for 1.1 SL, maybe 80hp (single 4045 jd) right below pilot house. Keep flat deck fwd (no rails, hatches, lights, etc...) to keep the sleek clean look, port holes at hull would give enough light below. Lounging area at entire aft of pilot house 2.5' below top of hull with a 1.0' rail. To be built single chine construction (much easier and less costly). 65' x 14' x 4' max draft
     
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    Btw, any more similar images would b appreciated and exact description
     
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