Anhcor systems

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  1. Hostins
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    Hello there, im having problem to find a seller for it,
    a mechanical spring system for anchor.

    Anyone got a clue ??

    thanks!
     
  2. Omeron
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    Well, we may have a problem with this too.Perhaps you can give us a clue. What is a mechanical spring system for an anchor? Any pictures, drawings?
    What boat? what anchor? etc...
     
  3. Hostins
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    Hostins Junior Member

    i got a picture
    finnaly
    well,
    the part that im looking for is the mechanical "arm" that lifts up the anchor from the inside of the Hull,
    whats the propperly name of it ?
    who can develop´that work?

    thanks
    pics attched[​IMG]
     
  4. kenJ
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    Bow Roller

    Hard to tell from the picture but I think he is asking about a bow roller with a hinge that folds back into the anchor well.
     
  5. Hostins
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    Hostins Junior Member

    i did marked what i wanna know
    and the second picture is not the same part, but looks like
    im tryin to find out who can develop that system
    [​IMG]

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  6. BillyDoc
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    Hi Hostins,

    So, if I'm understanding you, the mechanism you are interested in is a "bow roller and chain guide on an arm" that folds into a locker on the foredeck with the anchor attached when not in use. The hatches close, and you end up with a clean deck. To deploy the anchor you open the hatches, the "arm" rotates up and becomes the bow roller and chain guide --- and from there you are more or less conventional. Is that right?

    I've never seen anything like this, but I can see the advantage of not tripping over the anchoring apparatus every time you visit the foredeck!

    BillyDoc
     
  7. Hostins
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    Hostins Junior Member

    YES! youre 10000% right

    now i need to find someone to design it, any clues ?
     
  8. BillyDoc
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    Not right now, but I'll definitely give it some thought. I'm torn between "clean foredeck" (good!) and "complexity" (bad!) though. Let's hope someone else has seen these and can come up with a manufacturer, as I just hate re-inventing that damn wheel again, and again, and again . . .
     
  9. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    As a custom feature on a specific yacht, it could be effective, but retro fitting existing yachts would prove problematic for obvious reasons. Incorporating this feature into new designs would be possible though sanctioning and licensing manufactures (or designer's) to employ your device also seems wishful.

    Do a patent search and see where you stand, then establish a reasonable business plan and go for it.
     
  10. yipster
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    yipster designer

    is it fitting space to have the winch before the anchor and having a reversed anchor storage?
    consequences also be than to have locker drainhoses deeper inside, intersting idea tho
     
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  12. rwatson
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    Had a look at the designs at Cariboni

    Is it my eyes, or does this drawing show a non symetric left hand wheel to make the whole thing lean to one side ?

    Hope their engineering is better than their drawing -
     

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  13. Hostins
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  14. ChicagoDrifter
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    High End Boats

    I saw similar hydraulic designs in high end English manufactured cruisers.
     

  15. Omeron
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    Hostins, what is the boat in the picture? Is it a custom made boat or a production?
    It is an interesting idea, and who ever manufactured that prototype i am sure can do it for somebody else.
    It doesnt seem as though it is a complicated piece of equipment.
    The very important pivot point is not visible in the picture. and also how it is squeezed in with the forestay attachment cannot be clearly seen.
    Are you able to provide pictures of this detail?
    I think it is also important to know how it works in practice. If you know the owner of the boat, it would be very interesting to get his comments.
    From the picture i guess the whole lot would weigh around 20-25 Kg.
    Lifting it and placing it on the bow without dropping would need some good arm muscles.
    The chain stopper kind of bar in the photo seems to be in the way and looks like need to be removed before pivoting.
    You also mentioned a spring in your thread. Is this lot spring loaded at the pivot to assist lifting?
    Also, when in use, i guess there would be considerable load on the pivot point due to downward angle of the chain.
    It would be interesting to findout more...
    Thanks.
     
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