Ancient Voyagers and Sunken Cities: Evidence

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    The Olmec stone heads, one pictured in a previous post, certainly appear to have African features. Olmec civilization predated Mayans. Incas and Aztecs were much later and encountered by Spaniards post Columbus.
     
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    Interesting to me. Maybe to others?
     
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    Why are ancient voyages to the Americas more interesting than walking in over a temporary land bridge in the far north?
    Trade routes!
    Can't imagine backpacking goods between South America and Asia via Alaska, even if the land bridge remained. Boats can both arrive and sail away again, carrying cargo, technology, new ideas. Corn, yams, cocaine, tobacco seem to be have migrated before Columbus! Trading with the Americas way back when? Check out the 3000 year old Egyptian cocaine mummies documentary. above. They were full of nicotine also!

    Maize in pre-Columbian China - PubMed https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15997215/
     
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    Foods That Originated in the New World: artichokes, avocados, beans (kidney and lima), black walnuts, blueberries, cacao (cocoa/chocolate), cashews, cassava, chestnuts, corn (maize), crab apples, cranberries, gourds, hickory nuts, onions, papayas, peanuts, pecans, peppers (bell peppers, chili peppers), pineapples, potatoes, tomatoes, bananas, ...

    Ancient and historic dispersals of sweet potato in Oceania https://www.pnas.org/content/110/6/1982

    Yams arrived in Polynesia hundreds of years prior to Columbus being born!
     
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    Most experts attribute the introduction of the peanut to the Portuguese during the Ming Dynasty. Portuguese and Spanish traders introduced a number of crops to China during this period, including sweet potatoes, maize, potatoes, peppers, tomatoes, pumpkins, and tobacco. The peanut was introduced in Fujian at the start of the 16th century, and by the end of the century had spread to Zhenjiang.[5] American missionaries introduced the Virginia peanut in the middle of the 19th century.[1] Archaeological finds of purported ancient carbonized remains of peanuts during excavations in China have led to the controversial claim that the groundnut is an indigenous crop, or that explorers from China or elsewhere in the Old World had discovered the Americas and introduced crops from there millennia before Columbus

    Peanut production in China - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut_production_in_China
     
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    I know you would tell me the name of the secret organization but then it would no longer be a secret. :)
     
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    You wouldn't long survive the telling to you, is the traditional retort, Hoyt.
     
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    Not at all. If you want to know, we will welcome you to the fold.
     
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    The secret organization? Not at all. I can only say that it is ancient and arcane. Also, once you join, leaving is not possible.
     
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    Possible evidence of an unproven Egyptian voyage to the Americas has been found in the Marble Region of the Grand Canyon. The Arizona Gazette reported on April 5, 1909 that two explorers funded by the Smithsonian found various Egyptian artifacts, including tablets with hieroglyphics, inside caves.
    The problem is the Smithsonian has no known records of the discovery. That find would provide strong evidence to support the belief ancient Egyptians reached the Americas – though it may also be considered inconvenient by some groups to go against the story of the ‘discovery’ of the Americas, as it could drastically alter perceptions of events and the celebration of traditions such as Columbus Day .
    Dealing in the Past: How Did Ancient Egyptians Get Nicotine and Cocaine? https://www.ancient-origins.net/history/dealing-past-how-did-ancient-egyptians-get-nicotine-and-cocaine-009223
     
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    You previously said that evidence of Caucasians coming to the Americas before Columbus was suppressed for political reasons. Did that conspiracy theory dry up and just made up a new one? We can really use you in our secret society. That kind of flexibility of mind and quick thinking is paramount to us.
     
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    I can't right now. I am busy making a new aluminum foil skull cap.
     

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    You get a roll of aluminum foil at the induction.
     
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