Ancient Voyagers and Sunken Cities: Evidence

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    Sunken cities aren't mythological, they exist.



    Evidence of trade between Egypt with America 3000 years ago? Even indirectly via China?

     
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    Archaeologists found a very old chinese pottery up in the Canadian tundra/taiga many years ago. I wish I could remember more details. Will research.
     
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    I found some evidence listed in Wikipedia addressing Pre-Columbian artifactual findings of Old World in the New World.
     
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    Physical evidence
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    A stone tortoise overlooking the former 4th working pool of the Longjiang Shipyard (now a park), where treasure ships were built 600 years ago
    Some of the drydocks at Longjiang Shipyard at Nanjing—known informally as the Treasure Ship Yard—were 27 to 36 m (90 to 120 feet) wide. But two such drydocks measured 64 m (210 feet) wide, considered large enough to build a ship 50 m (166-foot) wide.

    In 1962, a large rudderpost indicating a rudder area of 452 square feet was unearthed at the Longjiang Shipyard. It has been widely said dimensions of this rudderpost corresponds with a ship of between 538 and 600 feet in length,[4] lending credence to the notion that ships of these dimensions were indeed built. However, such use of this piece of archeological evidence rests upon supposing proportions between the rudder and the length of the ship, which have also been the object of intense contestation.[5]
    Chinese treasure ship - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_treasure_ship#Niccol%C3%B2_de'_Conti
     
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    2nd century (Han dynasty)
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    One of the Borobudur ships (c. 8th century), large native outrigger trading vessels, possibly of the Sailendra and Srivijaya thalassocracies. Shown with the characteristic tanja sail of Southeast Asian Austronesians. Vessels like these became the basis of the Chinese junks.
    Chinese maritime shipping did not exist until the late Song dynasty.[28] However, large Austronesian trading ships docking in Chinese ports with as many as four sails were recorded by scholars as early as the Han Dynasty (206 BCE – 220 CE). They called them the kunlun bo or kunlun po (崑崙舶, lit. "ship of the [dark-skinned] Kunlun people"). They were booked by Chinese Buddhist pilgrims for passage to Southern India and Sri Lanka.[29][30] Bas reliefs of Sailendran and Srivijayan large merchant ships with various configurations of tanja sails and outriggers are also found in the Borobudur temple, dating back to the 8th century CE.[31][32]

    Junk (ship) - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junk_(ship)

    Apparently ocean voyaging trading non-Chinese ships were known prior to current era. Voyages to Peru don't seem impossible.

    Since 3000 year old Egyptian mummies had considerable internal evidence ingested cocain and tobacco, somebody was trading with the Americas!
     
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    Humans are not native to the Americas. What is surprising about several waves of immigration through time?
     
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    Some evidence that would confirm the multiple immigrations such as skeletal remains exhibiting Caucasian features is suppressed for political reasons.
     
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    I agree. Western civilization would collapse if anyone did not suppress such evidence. In fact, there is a secret government organization whose only mandate is to keep the public from finding out.
     

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