Americas Cup: Advantage Alinghi?

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  1. Doug Lord
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    From Scuttlebutt-this just seems so very wrong:

    But, this being AC 33, first a report from the room. The International Jury
    has finally handed down its final decision on measurement and it is not hard
    to see why it took so long. Indeed, when I saw the Jury driving out of their
    headquarters on Saturday, I was surprised they were not still holding their
    noses. The bottom line is that, although Justice Kornreich ruled, based on
    the recommendation of three of the Jury members, that the boats had to be
    measured with water ballast on board, the Jury has ratified an absurd
    measurement procedure that turns Justice Kornreich's decision on its head.
    How does that work? The Jury has ruled that, although water has to be
    distributed equally from side to side, it does not have to be equally
    distributed fore and aft.

    Thus, Alinghi can pump all its water ballast to specially constructed stern
    tanks, which will then sink the stern until the boat does a wheelie and the
    LWL is brought under 90 feet. Of course, the boat could never sail in that
    trim under any race condition and the stern tanks will probably not be used
    to any substantial extent while actually sailing. Clearly, this is not a
    case of exploiting a loophole in a rule. It is an example of ratifying
    breaking any rational understanding of the way to implement the rule in
    order to produce the exact opposite of the rule.

    Why? Alinghi cannot comply with the Deed with any water ballast and cannot
    sail without water ballast. The Jury is simply not going to force Alinghi to
    comply with the Deed, knowing that it would decide the Match. It would have
    been simpler to just come out and say that, regardless of Justice
    Kornreich's ruling, Alinghi can measure without water ballast and then add
    water while racing. Sailors should think twice before complaining about
    Supreme Court justices running this game, rather than sailors. The inmates
    cannot seem to run the asylum very well either.
    -- Read on:
    http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/news/07/cf/#p57
     
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  3. terhohalme
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    They are waiting for the wind now to start. Huge monsters!
     
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  4. Doug Lord
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  5. jehardiman
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    A thought occured to me; wouldn't it be funny if, because of the wind limits, they don't sail all the races by the 25th.

    Now that would start the circus.
     
  6. Roly
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    I guess one more reason for BMWO to litigate further.
    What a circus!
     
  7. Chris Ostlind

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    It can only be a circus, if one cares and has invested expectations. This is now and has always been, a sailboat race for rich people. They have always made their own rules regarding the event, where it would be held and just who could mount a challenge.

    In the grand scheme of things, would it really matter if the whole thing collapsed tomorrow and sank to the bottom?

    We live in a time of grand spectacle. If that reality abuses your sense of self and how humanity should behave towards one another, then take action. Take action by refusing to participate in the head swiveling gore on the freeway. Refuse to engage the reality TV shows that have nothing, whatsoever, to do with reality. Become a proactive member of your body politic, whatever and wherever, it may be. Voice your distaste when an athlete, at any level, uses drugs to elevate his, or her, status.

    Get to know your neighbors. Visit them in their homes and not just over the fence where you can comfortaby distance yourself from the fact that they are not like you.

    Be open to the possibilities of the life around you and how you are not now, nor have you ever been, a confined species with pre-disposed limits. Don't crap in the place where you eat and sleep.


    But, most of all....Teach your children about integrity, honesty, passion, obligation and honor.

    Do these things, and many more, and the whole spectacle of the America's Cup will become much less of an issue and rapidly fade from the passion of the sailing community.
     
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  8. trev0006
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    This is getting out of hand.




     
  9. Doug Lord
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    Measurement woe: Alinghi= water USA= helium

    All this indignation was before it turned out that USA had to use helium to measure in! Oh well, its the Americas Cup. Long Live the Cup!
     

  10. Chris Ostlind

    Chris Ostlind Previous Member

    Perhaps you meant to say, supposedly used helium, since it has not been confirmed publicly by the kind folks at BMWO?

    On the other hand, I have a source that tells me that real BS was on board with a steady output of captured methane. Besides being an alternate fuel for the engine, the gas was being produced all during the races in an effort to have a slow discharge, non-breathable disgusting gas that would force the opponent to the other side of the course whenever it was desired.

    Mind you it's my source and I'm not telling who it is.
     
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