Aluminum Skiff

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by fpjeepy05, Jun 23, 2025.

  1. montero
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    Do you really need this motorized plough (ProDrive) ? What about jet outboard ?
     
  2. fpjeepy05
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    I don't think a jet would like being fed mud and oyster shells.
     
  3. montero
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  4. fpjeepy05
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  5. comfisherman
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    Had a chance to sit down and look at a few numbers. It is a conundrum for sure, something riveted like a Lund alaskan or a similar 18 foot lowe type Jon boat is going to be plus or minus 50 pounds around the 400 market. With a light weight or small outboard its going to land in the range of something most guys could push of a flat or sand bar if need be. The minimalist cope is going to land at double maybe more, guessing the pro drive is a bit north of 250 lbs as its got more attached than a straight ob. Over 1000 pounds for 18 feet isn't absurdly heavy but falls in a markedly different category of pushing around.

    Kinda surprised the pro drive idea hasn't been adopted earlier and across a broader range of sizes. Seems like the surface drive off a big heavy v twin has been around long enough to try a better mousetrap.. i.e. better power to weight and liquid cooling.
     
  6. fpjeepy05
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    Agreed. For my use, a 20-30 hp powerhead with a smaller surface-drive lower unit makes more sense. I just fell down the aluminum/fiberglass hybrid rabbit hole and turned up a handful of builders already blending the two materials. Fiberglass topsides usually look better, give more design freedom, feel cooler to the touch, and can even end up lighter and easier to build than sheet aluminum.

    Below the waterline, those benefits fade. When a hull needs to bump rocks or scrape oyster beds, aluminum still takes the abuse better.

    A couple of examples if anyone’s curious:
    Cross Boats
    Silver Boats AluFibre

    A carbon-fiber cap on an aluminum hull is a highly specialized solution, but the demand is so niche it probably wouldn’t cover the tooling and production costs.
     
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    The Maine Island Trail Association has been using Lund SSV 18 aluminum outboard skiffs for over 35 years to access the approximately 200 islands along the Maine coast. Almost all of the islands require landing on a beach, peebles or rocks for access; only a few islands have piers or floats. Most of the current fleet has 30 HP Honda outboards though the newest boat has a Honda 40 HP outboard. We use one of the MITA Lund skiffs to assist with monitoring some of the islands and also own a Lund SSV 18 with a Mercury 40 HP outboard.

    The islands are along the coast of Maine and the SSV 18 is large enough to handle the more open waters if care is taken. Tidal range can be up to 14 feet and the SSV 18 is light enough that it may be able to be pushed off it grounds due to the users lingering a bit too long (but not too long) when the tide is dropping.

    Lund advertises the basic weight of the SSV 18 without a motor as 460 lbs. The MITA boats are heavier with an added storage compartment and some other interior modifications.

    The SSV 18 hull is constructed from 3 panels, two 0.063 thick sides and a 0.100 thick bottom, and the transom. The bottom panel is split forward, folded along the keel and the forward ends are pulled together along the stem. Joints are riveted.

    Video segment with MITA boats in use:

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    Last edited: Jul 14, 2025 at 1:43 AM

  8. comfisherman
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    Never hear me disparage the almighty lund... western alaska in the 90s and early 2000s they must have sold them in bulk. Probably as many lunds back then as people. Most popular were the 16s and 18s with the old two stroke 35 yamahas. The red and blue color options earned them the nickname "spam cans". I think every family west of kodiak had at least one at some point, we certainly did.

    Guys the next village up used to through rocks in the bow when rolling solo, always made them ride a bit better. Other option was a fuel drum or the running punch line... a rotund wife. Logged all manner of adventure in one of those, every one of them leaking slowly from a rivet that never seemed to get fixed. Dollar for dollar maybe the best option, but I get the feeling the op is chasing the ultimate tool... that might be something altogether more than the almighty lund ssv.
     
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