Aluminum 16' plans

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  1. Kevinovitch
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    Kevinovitch New Member

    Hi all

    New to the forum and hey, looks like a cool place !

    Here goes my first post : I am a marine welder. I love metal, especially aluminum, and I am looking for the perfect aluminum runabout for my wife, 3 children and the dog. But...I can't seem to find it.

    What I want : 17' max. 60hp max, deadrise at transom around 12-15 degrees. Able to take a small cabin forward with canvas in the back. Basically looking like a Cdory 16 but with more v on the bottom, and made of aluminum.

    Would anyone know where I could get prints or cutting files for something like that ? Doesn't need to have the cabin on paper , that I can design, but I am going through every google answers and don't quite like what I see.

    Thanks for your help

    Kevin in Vancouver BC
     
  2. Mr Efficiency
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    Mr Efficiency Senior Member

    IMHO, 16 feet is at the southern extremity of practicable size for a plate aluminium boat, without pressings to stiffen up the panels, you need either a fairly heavy gauge of material, or very closely spaced frames, or both, or the thing will dish and become unsightly, especially if there are flat or near flat areas, which is pretty much standard with a planing hull.
     
  3. messabout
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    messabout Senior Member

    You could look at some of the Glen-L designs in plywood. It is often possible to exchange aluminum for ply and the staff at Glen-L is pretty good at working with their clients on such matters.

    There are others too. You might correspond with Par who is one of our regular contributors. He has a small web site but has a lot more designs than the ones shown there. Use the forum search function to find him. That is only one of the names that come to mind. There are other designers here who may be able to help as well.
     
  4. daiquiri
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    daiquiri Engineering and Design

    Hi Kevin,
    I have sent you an e-mail via BD. net. Pease let me know if you have received it.
    Cheers
     
  5. Kevinovitch
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    Kevinovitch New Member

    I see what you mean Mr Efficiency, that is about the smallest plate alum boats around. Stanley (ex Smith I believe) makes a 16'.

    http://www.stanleyboats.ca/stanley/tiller.html

    What I am aiming for above the waterline is this, the Cdory 16 angler :

    http://www.c-dory.com/boats/classic/angler-16/

    The little cabin makes a huge difference in winter here in western Canada. Cdory's look nice but I hear the bottom is a little flat. I want something I can cross over to Vancouver island if I want to, 15-20 miles. Plus I refuse to touch fiberglass again, been there done that.

    Mr Daiquiri I sent you an email, looking forward to see what you are working on.

    Thanks for your input all.

    K
     
  6. JSL
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    JSL Senior Member

    check out metalboatkits.com ... they have a 16' and you can get the specs
     

  7. Mr Efficiency
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    Mr Efficiency Senior Member

    I think your original idea of 12-15 degrees at the transom is on the money, anything less will be insufferable in open waters. Don't know if this link will work for you, but some likely looking hull designs to look at here:

    http://www.platealloy.com/monos.htm
    Note that 4mm plate is specified for 16 feet hulls, there is no way that you will end up with a light boat with this type of construction, which is why many aluminium boats in this size range use (successfully) lighter gauge, corrugated or press-formed skins. And with enough rough water use they will dish between frames, pressings and all ! 4mm alloy is equivalent in weight to as much as 15mm plywood, so you can see these are not lightweights, which is probably for the better in rougher water usage.
     
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