Aluminium prices that high ?

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  1. winters
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    Being new to this forum, i'll start with a short Hello! :D

    I might want to build myself an aluminium boat (sometime in the near future). So I was looking for prices on 'marine-grade' aluminium like 5052, 5083 etc.

    The few prices I found are something like this;
    -Aluminium 5083 plate, (various length/width), thickness 4mm/5mm (.16/.19 inch), aprox 15 EURO per kilo (~$19).

    According to my calculations, the minimum for an open 5metres/16feet (fishing)boat, would be around 600 kilo of plate. That's before cutting, so including waste material.

    Well let's see, that makes 600 * 15 euro = 9000 euro (~11500 USdollar) ... minimum :eek:
    And then there are all the other costs ...

    Is it really this expensive to build with aluminium :confused:
     
  2. snal
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    Metal prices

    All metals are way up right now. Up until 6 months ago aluminum had been the bargain. We got hit with 2 20% increases so far this year. Copper has quadrupled in the last 18 months, and stainless is also way up.
    They're blaming it on China and fuel prices.
    It's a great time to be collecting scrap!
     
  3. Raggi_Thor
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    I had a visitor from a small boatbuilding company, building workboats in aluminium. He said they paid approx one euro per kg... I have to call him and see if I understood it right :)
     
  4. winters
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    @snal
    Indeed :eek:
    A recent article from a Dutch newspaper;
    "There's an explosion in copper thefts [..] Especially lightning protectors are popular, these contain 100 - 500 Kg of copperwire. This makes 500 - 2500 euro on the black market. An estimate is that 30 - 50 of those systems dissapear on a weekly base, in earlier years the score was around 5 a year."

    @Raggi_Thor
    Well that sounds like a great price to me :)
    I'm very curious about which kind of aluminium he uses and where his supplier is located.
     
  5. Richard Hillsid
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    Sheet can be bought at under 4 euros a kilo anywhere in EU if you a business, At least we can and we only by 50 tons a year.
    Standard profiles are mainly under 4 euros but some tubes fetch as much as 6,5 euros a kilo.
    Individuals can by most grades at 6-7 Euros a kilo from retailers.
    A year ago September we paid 3,12 to for sheet 5083 and 3,37 for 6082 in june 2005 we managed to get under 3 Euros ocaisionaly.
     
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    @Richard Hillsid
    Thanks! that's some usefull info.
    I Just received an offer on 5083 sheet for 4 - 4.5 Euro a kilo. So that's not bad when I read your reply. My earlier calculations for 600Kg bruto makes now 2400 - 2700 Euro instead of 9000 :D
     
  7. Richard Hillsid
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    Good for you winters AL is a good chose.
     
  8. D'ARTOIS
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    The actual price of 5083 is Euro 3,70 per kg ex. For special sizes, prices may come higher, above Euro 4,00. Prices are basen on quantities above 2000 kgs.
     
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    @D'ARTOIS
    Great! I see you are from NL too. Do you have tips on where to go for 'actual prices' etc. ?
     
  10. D'ARTOIS
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    I can give you the NAW details of my supplier and you may ask him for a quotation: ALULAND, tel.: 078-6230020 - fax: 6230040 - they are supplied by Corus and Garfield Aluminium Industries
    e-mail: info@aluland.com
     
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    Ok thanks alot :)
     
  12. Richard Hillsid
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    Is this with VAT or without?
     
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    SolomonGrundy I'm not crazy...

    alum. prices

    I recently was quoted $3/lb. for 4'X20" sheets in various th. from Alaskan Cu. here in Seattle, I know some builders get it for around $2.75/lb.
     

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    I checked here, it's around 30NOK/kg, almost 4Euro/kg or 5USD/kg or 2.5USD/lbs. That is ex VAT.
    Prices change (rise) every day....

    1Euro=8NOK, 1USD=6 to 6.5NOK.

    http://www.norskstaal.no/varekatalog/prispdf/nost_aluminium.pdf

    Example:
    Aluminium skipsplater, EN AW 5052/5754-H24/H34 (733-1) - NOK/KG
    Varenr Dimensjon Kg/plate <199KG >200KG >1000KG
    733008 4,00 X 2000 X 5000 MM 112.00 49.80 43.57 33.62

    As you see, the price is 33.62NOK/kg for 1000kg while it's 50NOK/kg for small quantities.
     
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