Advanced Manufacturing of Flying Boats

Discussion in 'Projects & Proposals' started by AmnonMikeCohen, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. AmnonMikeCohen
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    AmnonMikeCohen Inventor

    My yet advanced discovery based inventions and design, needs the protection of an established Manufacturer whom is willing and suitable to be the Commercial Partner for the yet new original technology which is granting the Flying capability to any and all existing Boats of all sizes.
    Here is my letter to manufacturers of water-crafts.

    What I am able show while protecting the new patenting rights, are primitive information and pictures plus videos, but there is nothing primitive about the yet most advanced design and the add-on FINS technology I own, and wish the Maritime Industry and all Mariners - like all members of this website.

    If you know the owner/manufacturer or a Marine Distributor who will be interested in participating in the project and initiative to help deliver real exciting new boating capability to the industry, please feel free to act as our referral person as we shall be thankful, and we know, mariners worldwide also will be thankful for the new capabilities and listed benefits in the website.

    What I like to add, is that the proposed initial Manufacturing of “Flying Boats” by “Nomadic, In-Cell Robotics” is A Specialized Robot within A Shipping Container which serves as a portable manufacturing plants we can produce for production in many countries at more economic yet profitable prices, from Aluminum and optional Stainless-Steel; but the design itself can be transferred for production lines of traditional boats’ manufacturing plants.
     
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  2. gonzo
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    gonzo Senior Member

    Do you have a patent? Otherwise, since you have shown your invention publicly, the patent office considers it in the public domain.
     
  3. PAR
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    If he's applied (appropriately) he's protected, so keeping it under wraps isn't warranted. The only video I've seen shows a boat porpoising along, not flying. If you want investors, you have to give them more than lip service, lousy quality videos of a porpoising boat and nothing about the "invention" they'd be investing in. Investors want details, not only in the potential product and it's innovations, but a business model that squares up with a successful launch. Seeing as you've been trying for some time to entice investment, I'd suggest something isn't "comfortable" in regard to how these potential investors, perceive your product and/or your business models.
     
  4. AmnonMikeCohen
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    AmnonMikeCohen Inventor

    Patent is still open

    The Trade Secret may still be knowledge I shall keep, and the patent application was submitted a long time ago to show I am 1st to invent, 1st to file and 1st not to publish what I may apply for as the patent when we are set to go to market.
    There are problems/short-comings in the patent system which are why I am employing a wiser patent strategy.
    (In the past, I was an lobbyist for our regional inventors society and have shared some advise the USA PTO has taken and followed, but not to the full extend of the wisdom I was proposing, as its interests are in revenue and not in the original mandate for focus on harvesting economic development.)
     
  5. AmnonMikeCohen
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    AmnonMikeCohen Inventor

    The eye can not see the feeling of flying

    What I show is what is "under the hood" and what you may see is not a flying boat, probably as you expect it to have wings or lift like on foils.

    The proper investors will respect what I claim and come for the proof of concept and demonstration under proper disclosure agreement and demonstration of capability and good intent to follow the good-business objectives of the project.

    Truth that I have found about this industry, is that it is the most skeptical and difficult industry to take new technological leadership, and most manufacturers simply ignore inventors and do not want to work with ideas other then theirs own, but will be fast to copy-cat and follow others or pirate what they like or is successful - so I have tailored my Global Business Strategy to my findings and stay very patiently in hope there is that needed commercial partner my project needs who will be very happy he/she did recognize the truth I represent and not what others are saying about my brain-child and its yet new and advanced safe and wanted commercial capabilities...
     
  6. gonzo
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    A provisional application only lasts 12 months and can not be renewed. Can you post your patent number? That would help clear things out. Otherwise, if you haven't filed for a patent, it is legally in the public domain. As such, it may have little commercial value since anyone can manufacture it without having to pay you any royalties. Also, check your grammar and spelling. It makes prospective customers take you more seriously.
     
  7. PAR
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    The only thing I've seen from your posts and your claims are bluster, illusion and a clear misunderstanding of the industry in general and your attempts at protection in particular. No wonder no one wants to invest in your proposed "invention". Your business model is obviously flawed and the lack of investors clearly indicates this precisely. You can't gain anything, without exposure to risk, it's as simple as this fundamental principle. You can cowl in the corner, coveting you "prize" or you can walk to the center of the room and let it's features and advantages speak for themselves.
     
  8. TANSL
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    That is, a person who does not write English properly can not be taken seriously. Thank you, Gonzo, as far as I'm concerned.
    In my opinion a non serious person is the one that talks about what he does not know and says nonsense, even if he uses proper English.
    No one should despise another because of trying to communicate with others even in a language that is not his own.
    You could tell Amnon what should be corrected, rather than dismiss it as unserious.
    You do not know many other things (and you express your opinion on them) but I have to assume that you speak English properly. Or not ?. If so, please teach us master!
    I have been corrected by people, and I really appreciate it, through private messages, not to doing so violent for me. Learn discretion and humility.
     
  9. PAR
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    Before you take this guys defence TANSL, read through his previous posts on the subject of his "invention" and you'll quickly see why he's not to be taken seriously. I have a few patents and several copyrights, plus have introduced products to market and no serious investor can speculate on this venture, without considerably more than he's provided. His business model just can't produce results, given the self imposed restraints he's placed on it, which is why (again) he's not received any offers.

    Yes, there's a translation issue, but anyone truly serious about his venture would hire the appropriate team, to get the most favorable light, likely removing him from the direct marketing aspect of the business opportunity. It's a pretty common issue among inventors - not having a clue how to present their product/ideas in a way that could be palatable to an investor. It's not an English syntax problem, but a business model issue and this hurdle must be overcome, before any consideration can be posed toward this enterprise. In fact and to further this point, he's had no interest in his native tongue areas too, which just reinforces my assertions about the business model. Simply put, he's going to have to have faith in someone eventually, before he can see any reward. What this usually boils down to is let the inventor invent and let the marketing team get it on the market. Two very different expertises, one of which he may have some talent, the other obviously not so much.
     
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  10. tom kane
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    Personally I think all Patent and Copy Rights should be banned the system is just one big mess. To the benefit of legal Professional only, leading people up "the garden path".
    So called inventors are just adding "Improvements" to existing products without coming up with any"New or Novel Ideas.
    There must be a better way to compensate people who spend time and money successfully developing improvements to our existing products.
    The Patenting system just slows down the flow of better ways to do things so the consumer may never benefit.
     
  11. Mr Efficiency
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    Easy to say that, but you need to propose an alternative. You can't have the results of expensive R & D being open access.
     
  12. gonzo
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    That's really arrogant to call all the people getting patents "so called inventors". Have you read the patents being registered? There are hundreds of thousands of legitimate inventions. Of course they are based of previous art; it is the nature of technological invention. Seems like Tom has a case of sour grapes.
     
  13. PAR
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    I agree the system is flawed, but it's also necessary and very helpful. Most new products are an evolution of previous items, so sure a "new twist", but nothing to discount out of hand. Good ideas never get held down, though they can get "bought up" by a large conglomerate that feels the need to save their market share, eventually even this tactic doesn't work.

    A classic case in point is the cable TV providers worldwide. They're doing everything they can to gobble up small providers and dominate a market, knowing full well their market share is rapidly going down the dumper. As they consolidate their monopolistic enterprises, in an effort to limit choices, video streaming is steadily eating into their already saturated market. They've done the projections and know full well that in 5 years, the majority of TV broadcasts, cable service, premium channels like HBO, Pay Per View will be on portable devices, not the big box in the living room with a wire sticking out of the wall. It will be ISP's that eat up the cable company markets, so the cable companies are buying ISP's and diversifying their product offerings, so when the bottom does fall out of cable, they'll still be viable. Of course, lots of little startups and small providers are getting their corporate heads kicked in, as a result of the purchasing power these conglomerates have, including squashing any innovation that might speed up their demise. Welcome to business 101.

    What we really need is more protection, not less, as the current system of protections is simply who can afford to defend their protection over an average 7 - 8 year long litigation process, which obviously favors the conglomerates. The little startup can't show up in court, face down a battery of 5 or 10 of the finest on that particular subject attornies and expect to survive with their idea or product intact. This is the basic issue with current protections. In fact a very common strategy is to simply wait out and out spend the adversary, in these types of cases, knowing they'll run out of money or become too frustrated to continue at some point. It's a simple business decision - spend a few million to earn several. Again, welcome to business 101.
     
  14. TANSL
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    You can easily check that, at any time, I have defended this man. I just wanted to say, and I repeat, that despise someone because he does not speak or write correctly a language I think it's not fair.
    Cheers, my friend.
     

  15. AmnonMikeCohen
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    Than you, and you are correct

    I know what you are suggesting is true and facts as well as popular knowledge, so I employ wisdom which deals with these points, which has served me well for many (Too many) years - but because of my hope to find the needed partnership so we bring the new inventions to the market so most mariners get the opportunity/option to employ it, I keep trying to reach out beyond the website or occasional phone calls to people who may be helpful.
    While my invention is still ahead of what is found on the market, and while others are coming closer to my way of thinking - I do not mind if someone will go beyond or reach close to my (now old) discovery, because the mariners and the industry wins, and this has been my original interest as a mariner myself. In 1974 I was very excited about my discovery, and even now, when I take my prototype for having fun on the water - I keep hoping others can have the fun while critics are staying critical and skeptical none believers.
    YES, when the time comes, the new patent application will simpler and with similar claims as the original which was never published and is on the records at the USA.PTO.:)
     
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