About Atkin's Wild Duck, sailing,building budgets...?

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  1. JEANYANG
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    JEANYANG Junior Member

    http://www.woodenboatrescue.org/Akin%20Wild%20Duck.htmhttp://www.atkinboatplans.com/I am favourite the wooden boats that Atkins design,one of them is THE WILD DUCK 32'7" Jib-Headed Cutter.
    Wild Duck is 32 feet 7 inches over all; 30 feet 9 inches on the waterline; 10 feet 6 inches in breadth; and 6 feet draft.Very beautiful curve, heavy loaded, long keel.
    It looks to be a heavy weather boat.isn't??
    One Question :the WILD DUCK suit for long voyage?? how about the ability in extreme rough water,compare to the the Atkins INGRID ,ERIC,THISTLE?
    Second Question:How many the budgets for building the WILD DUCK? Include the hull,diesel,wooden mast,rigs,deck hardware,ironworks,sailing gears and others...ready to sailing. thanks!
     
  2. souljour2000
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    souljour2000 Senior Member

    I'm not sure...I am studying Atkins brothers a bit also.....many,many wonderful designs...good luck and welcome back to the forum ...
     
  3. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    Well her heavy weather ability will be typical of the hull form, assuming a snugged up rig for the conditions. This is a ridiculously heavy boat by modern standards. It's a 15 to 18 ton craft on a 30' LWL. It does have balanced ends and nice diagonals so she'll steer easily and not have bad manners. Her high D/L and low SA/D will insure you're wishing for more sail area pretty much all the time. To top it off, she still doesn't have full standing headroom even with her 6' of draft.

    She'll sail just like an Ingrid or Eric, which are both pigs in all but gale force winds. On the other hand, they're comfortable pigs, but slow none the less. She'll also make a nice liveaboard, with her internal volume. In the end, if you want a harbor queen that sits at a berth and looks salty, this is the boat for you. On the other hand if you want to sail well, you might want to consider a different design.

    Most novice sailors think they need an indestructible and ultimately safe design to go to sea in. Thinking this is the best course, just in case the worst happens. The reality of cruising life is, that you will rarely if ever see the conditions for which this boat was designed to endure. This means you're "burdening" the boat with things you'll rarely need. Hell, even Billy describes the lines of "Wild Duck" as "wholesome", which for him was an admission of her bellowing girth.
     
  4. JEANYANG
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    JEANYANG Junior Member

    Thank you PAR ! You always provide many valuable advice. Although the heavy boat goes very slowly,But, I like the wooden boats than the compsite fabre and cold metal boats. And ,the old designed Atkin the Wild Duck, In building ,may costs less than others, the rigging should less expensive .
     
  5. PAR
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    Actually, it would cost much more to build "Wild Duck" as designed then if compared to a more modern building method. This is because you have to pay for materials and labor. Traditional building methods, such as those employed in this boat, require lots of skill, lots of labor and lots of materials. Many modern methods use considerable less materials, somewhat less labor and often considerably less skill.

    In short, if you want a old looking design, it's much cheaper and usually easier to have a modern building technique.
     

  6. peter radclyffe
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    peter radclyffe Senior Member

    350.000 euros
     
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