A shipping container transportable multihull

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by bobg3723, Mar 5, 2008.

  1. kengrome
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    Seven years ago when I moved here, 20 footers to the west coast were already being quoted at more than $2000. Last year 40 footers cost nearly $4000 to the west coast and $5000 to the east coast. I think it might make sense to re-check your shipping prices, especially if doubling your latest quote might make a difference in your goals for this proposed boat ...
     
  2. the1much
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    the1much hippie dreams

    i'd be more worried with a boat that small, and sides so flat and high,,that unless your moving against or with the current, it would be very hard to control turns,,and keeping on course with just a 5 knot current hitting ya broad side,,,,and how would that boat take a side-on hit by a medium wave.,,,,,and wind is as much a problem hitting ya broadside as a current.
    and dont get me wrong,,,,i'll never tell someone that their idea is stupid,,,welll,,,most the time i wouldnt hehe,,,,and im just comming up with ANY prob i can,,,,jus cause i think to put up and idea to everyone,,,must mean you want everyone to shoot it round and try to figure out the bugs before ya waste ya money on cardboard,,,,i mean materials hehe ;)
     
  3. bobg3723
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    Click on the picture of the boat in the previous reply. That boat is called a Bangka. They are interisland capable boat found throughout south asia. Chine construction and freeboard are not that different from mine.
     
  4. bobg3723
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    If you feel uneasy about a motorsailer catamaran with four feet of freeboard, thirteen feet of lateral beam between hulls, a sail plan of appropriate size area to be within reason, that would be handled no different than a catamaran when tacking, with a catamaran's ideosynchracies of backwinding the jib to get out of irons, then if I come across a comparible catamaran for rent that would approximate similiar handling, I'll suggest you charter an example and see. But until I build one to satisfy myself, you'll only get a beer or two from me instead of spin around Lake Independance.

    Cheers,
    Bob
     
  5. the1much
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    cut a catarmaran in half,,,,,,hows it handle?
    hehehe,,,i'll take the beer,, but no boat ride,,,,i hate boats ;)
     
  6. bobg3723
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    Haha! Well we can both drink to that. ;-)

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    Bob
     
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  7. Richard Woods
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    Richard Woods Woods Designs

    As an alternative to your design please take a look at my 10m Mustang, which can be viewed on the New Designs page of my website www.sailingcatamarans.com.

    Even with a central cuddy it still fits in a 45ft high container. My 8m Elf and 9m Skua fit in a standard container, while you can get two 24ft Striders in one container.

    Shipping boats by container is a very attractive idea. Most people view ocean sailing as a means to get to the other side and often don’t enjoy the offshore passage.

    It also means you can have a boat built in a low wage country and ship it at low cost to wherever you want.

    I have been investigating doing just that myself. I write this in BC Canada, where we have a 25ft Merlin catamaran. But in the winter we like sailing in the tropics. I can get a Mustang built in China for under USD100,000 complete and shipped to the west coast US for about USD5000, and to the east coast for not much more. Or I can buy a boat in Europe and ship it to the Caribbean.

    Two small boats are a lot cheaper to build and maintain than one big one. I also think sailing small boats is more fun.

    Good sailing!

    Richard Woods of Woods Designs
     
  8. bobg3723
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    Hello Richard,

    Its an unexpected pleasure, for those of us aspiring amatuer boat design enthusiasts, to see what's coming down the pike from the yacht industry and share with us their views and insights. The yacht industry is well on their way towards tapping into the growing number of boating enthusiasts who want to leverage the inherent advantages of container ship yachts anchorage in far off exotic locals while flying to their crusing destination. $5K + airfaire is a far palatable fee to simply enjoy a new sense of freedom rather than slogging through an extended passagmaking, or subject to paying tens of thousands of dollars to ship across the Pacific on a yacht transporter. Why trust strangers handling your pride and joy when it can be safely ensconsed in a container.

    I can think of three or four container destinations to satisfy my cruising dreams, as well as my wallet. :)

    Cheers,
    Bob
     
  9. bobg3723
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    Here's a recent container shipping quote from LA to Manila. If anyone would care to start a new topic on their personal experiences shipping boats by container, that would be much appreciated.

    Cheers,
    Bob
     

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  10. the1much
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    i got a collapsible kayak ill sell ya,,,,could send fed-x ;)
     
  11. bobg3723
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    Whoowee. Eyuk hyuk! Just drop if off at the local thrift shop on your next visit. ;)

    Cheers,
    Bob
     
  12. tspeer
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    The Farrier F-33 trimaran was designed to fit into a shipping container.

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  13. kengrome
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    There may be a growing interest in this current fad, but I am convinced that it really is nothing more than that -- a FAD. Higher and higher shipping costs will more than likely kill it off before it has a chance to succeed. Or maybe people will begin to "wake up" and consider the hassles they will have to deal with in terms of shipping their boats around the world ...

    Personally I would rather travel light and charter a boat on the other end instead of hauling my own boat around the world. Then I can have some fun learning about and using the LOCAL boats -- rather than deal with foreign customs agents, foreign dock workers and foreign trucking companies ... and dealing with the hassle of assembly and disassembly and packing and unpacking that goes along with your concept.

    Don't get me wrong, if this is something you want to do for yourself then by all means go for it! But I just looked back at all your posts so far, and for the life of me I cannot figure out where you're headed with this concept. Did you bring this up because you intend to:

    a- Build one boat for your own personal use?

    b- Hire someone to build one boat for your personal use?

    c- Go into business and have boats like this manufactured?

    d- Do something else entirely ... ???
     
  14. kengrome
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    That's $2500 from USA to SE Asia, not the other way around. Shipping in the opposite direction costs twice as much, so now you're looking at $7500 for a round trip -- just for the boat's sea transport costs. This does not include trucking, cranes, hired help, customs bribes, or help with packing, unpacking, assembly and disassembly at each end of the sea shipment.
     

  15. bobg3723
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    You know the funny thing about life in the Philippines. Unless you know someone in high positions of authority that govern your livelyhood, you tend to get put at the end of the line for petitions with city government and other official capacities. It's a longtime lament of local citizens but particularly expatriots from abroad to be targeted for "consideration" to help "smooth" the process. I've seen it done to my father as well as common "tourists" passing through who happen to run into one official or another who was having a bad day. But, I guess graft and red tape is the same with buerocracies the world over. And this was during the Marcos era.

    I guess the unpacking is what you make of it. Hence my desire to keep things simple. Reread my description of one of my design goals.

    A. Yes
    B. No.
    C. No.
    D. Yes. Pursue life, liberty and happiness.

    Cheers,
    Bob
     
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