a pair of proas from Balkan Shipyards.

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  1. rael dobkins
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    rael dobkins Senior Member

    Anyway, i love Why Not?
    he is just an experiment base that except for being fun, he can sail too!!!
    I'm learning for cheap and with zero fear....
    wish i made him 3 years ago!!!!

    all d best, Balkan Shipyards.

    https://youtu.be/wW3nxZVZ5kc
     
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  2. Jamie Kennedy
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    Jamie Kennedy Senior Member

    Thanks again Rael, for the great videos.
     
  3. rael dobkins
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    rael dobkins Senior Member

    Thanks Jamie, I just believe information should B free.
    That way, maybe we can finally have world peace.............
    Take care.

    rael.
     
  4. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    So, the design and construction diagrams to thermonuclear devices, should be in the public domain? Maybe just a backdoor into cell phone encryption protocols . . . ?
     
  5. Jamie Kennedy
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    Jamie Kennedy Senior Member

    PAR, I don't think we need that all stuff to live simply and go sailing. For example, I have my Yngling 21 foot sailboat fitted with simple WWII Enigma machine and Sten gun, now in public domain. ;-)
     
  6. rael dobkins
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    rael dobkins Senior Member

    submarine design?????

    You guys must be debating submarine design......
    As levels are descending rapidly....
    Is this the time to put on a smiley face??? :) This one? or maybe ;-) this one??
    ..... The second one is so cool...... and U can do it without the shift button, much better!
    Anyway, what ever, At Balkan Shipyards we build proas. What we learn, we will always give away, secrets? what for?? we hold nothing back.
    If U like it or not.
    Any more hilarious comments will be ignored.
    Good luck and all d best
    rael.
     
  7. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    Okay, so not "all" information should be free. What about just proas? Should Vestas Sailrocket II release it's design into public domain? Maybe Paul Bieker can offer up his latest ideas on the subject - for free . . .
     
  8. rael dobkins
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    rael dobkins Senior Member

    I guess it all depends on points of view....
    If U love cheesecake, but only the smell of it makes me vomit, then what?
    It's just not up for debate, what I think and what others do.
    They are big boys and what they do is their business.
    My Ideas are not about speed records and racing. I'm a cruiser and so is Crystal Clear, Why Not? was just built to see that things work the way I understand them... Now I know that CC will work too.
    We launch her this summer, then as soon as I can, I will upload her whole design, free. WHY? because proas are just brilliant!
    Proas just have a category of their own. So why aren't there more out there?
    Many people would fit proas perfectly, only they don't know it... Sailing isn't only about luxury and comfort, It's also about simplicity and a fun ride...
    Proas give max fun to the dollar. max waterline to the dollar and the easiest build for any waterline length.
    So, why aren't there more out there????
    well, we're working on that.
     
  9. DennisRB
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    Nice boats. I think more info should be free too. But some people gain a living from selling the info they have developed, and its the money associated with developing that info which makes it of such a high quality that its worth paying for in the first place. Other models work by giving info away for free, and certainly keeping somethings secret are harmful to humanity just so one company can become rich. Forcing people to buy law books and rules and regs which are mandatory to be followed is wrong imo but thats the world we live in.

    Anyway I love the proas. Im looking forward to the sail reports.
     
  10. rael dobkins
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    Thanks Dennis, what you write is true and I understand all that.
    I just think that in some cases people could benefit more from giving more...
    CC is getting very close to her launch, it's been a head breaking 3 years and she looks promising.
    I wish i built WHY NOT? 3 years ago, if I had, CC would be sailing and probably much much lighter.......
    all d best.
    rael.
     
  11. whitepointer23

    whitepointer23 Previous Member

    Great post . I enjoy your videos.
     
  12. daiquiri
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    Looks like a nice job Rael. I like your ingenuity when it comes to using cheap off-the-shelf stuff and adapting it for your purposes. The dorade vent is a great example. :)

    By the way, did you perhaps learn English by listening hip-hop music? That's how it sounds to me. ;) :p

    Cheers, and keep up doing the good job.
     
  13. rael dobkins
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    rael dobkins Senior Member

    Thanks Brendan, yea, I like shooting clips and above all I'm serious about promoting the pacific proa. Happy U like my clips. I have a reason to shoot more.....
    All d best.
    Rael.
     
  14. rael dobkins
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    rael dobkins Senior Member

    Yo dood, ain't got no time for hip hop.
    Nor rap, nether reggae...

    gotta getém sparks flyin' get dat grinder playin'
    get dat babe sailin' get my soul cruisin'....

    need dat music playin'.......

    dat whistle through her riggin'
    Those waves at her bow breakin'

    off shore, deep music playin'................

    Happy u like her Bro.

    By d way, South African blood fills my veins.
    A hip hop tongue I may have... It's just how my English evolved over many years communicating with non English speakers....

    Simple is best!
    Rael.
     

  15. Jamie Kennedy
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    Jamie Kennedy Senior Member

    Super fly,
    for a white guy.
     
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