A Case for the small(er) Motorsailer

[skaraborgcraft]

These were pretty popular, Marina 7.5

Early models with the 12hp Yanmar could run at hull speed for 3 hours on a gallon of diesel, and they sail reasonable too.

 

[Laminar Flow]

I've seen a couple of these in the flesh. Quite a pretty boat too.

 

[bajansailor]

Anyone who knows about Glory 2, a Colvic 19ft which had a motoring range in excess of 1,000nm, and turned to starboard after leaving the Pacific side of Panama and went UP the West coast of the US.

Henry and Glory were an amazing duo.
Re when they went up the west coast of the USA, Henry had received an invitation to a friends birthday party in San Francisco. He and Glory were in Poole, in England at the time, and he received the invitation with plenty of advance notice (I think about a year).
Most folk would be wondering about how they would cope with the 12 hour plane journey to California - not Henry. He and Glory decided to sail there. It took them a while, but they got there - in time for the birthday party. And Henry then sailed home again, via Panama.
On his outbound trip he arrived in Barbados in poor condition - I think he had started off with a cold, which developed into pneumonia - my Mum had been talking to him every day on her Maritime Mobile ham radio net, and my folks promptly organised for somebody to keep an eye on Glory, and they shanghaiied Henry to their home so that he could recover under supervision (my Dad was a retired GP).
I have attached a nice PDF article about Henry and Glory - he certainly had some amazing adventures.
Also a (not very good) scanned copy of an article from Practical Boat Owner magazine about the indefatigable duo.

 

[CarlosK2]

A couple of days ago I read an interview with a guy who had sailed about 30 k miles across the ocean without hoisting the mainsail, always using different combinations of two bow sails

(1) a closed boat with a junk rig

(2) a true and powerful SailBoat, mini-Transat style, but more comfortable and safer

(3) a small motor sailer

(4) a classic like an OE 32

Different options to escape the unbearable standard yacht ...

... without going for a 180-210-300 K Euros (2025) Sportsboat or a Class 40 costing 700-800K Euros, which is also uncomfortable and most people would need assistance to sail

OE 32

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And without 0.9-1 million (?)

Boréal 47.2 : European Yacht of the Year 2021 | Boreal Yachts https://www.boreal-yachts.com/the-new-boreal-47-2-european-yacht-of-the-year-2021-in-the-category-bluewater-cruiser/?lang=en

 

[CarlosK2]

R-33 Class

R-33 Class, NACA report 405: Max Michael Munk Moment:

 

[CarlosK2]

The standard yacht is often a hydrodynamic disaster because it hasn't received the time, care, and attention it deserves:

1) The Munk Moment hasn't been calculated or is much larger than estimated

Munk-(Y) (due to yaw/leeway)
Munk-(R) (roll/heel + yaw/leeway)
Munk-(P) (pitch + roll + yaw)

must be considered

2) the hydrodynamic center of a modern keel is located forward (!) of the yacht's center of gravity

3) sailing Downwind crossing an Ocean with Big Waves the bow dips -1°/-2° ... because heel/roll (with "heavy quarters") causes the bow to dip, and because it's carrying tons of lead forward (!) of the pitch axis of rotation ...

and Munk-(P) => 2 x Munk-(R)

If we add to all this ...

4) the orbital current and counter-current of the wave ...

And

5) the slowness of a yacht that only hoist 7-10 square meters per Ton ...

we have an unbearable feedback loop of the three bandits: Roll, Yaw, Pitch

 

[skaraborgcraft]

Those OE designs are great upwind in snotty conditions, but can roll the gunwales going downwind. At least you are 99.9% guarenteed it is self righting.

 

[gonzo]

The standard yacht is often a hydrodynamic disaster because it hasn't received the time, care, and attention it deserves:

That is one more arrogant post from you. What have you designed, built, and sailed successfully?