7,50m ('24-'25) trailerable cruiser-racer

Discussion in 'Sailboats' started by Triman, Aug 17, 2007.

  1. Triman
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    Triman Junior Member

    Hy to all;
    since some time I'm looking for a project of a '23-'24 cruiser-racer sailboat to building myself. It must be trailerable to allow easy spot change, wintering and moorings.
    After long reflection, I tried to define some parameters:
    - Marine ply/epoxy(multichine) construction, for easiness, costs and good overall weight to strength ratio;
    - about 7,50m x 2,55m max (for trailering) and about 1200kg max;
    - ab. 2m draft with centerboard (drop keel), reducing to ab. 40 cm, ev. side ballasts for performance;
    - ab. 1,60m interior heigth and minimum accomodations
    I love very much minitransats, so the the project should be in that direction, even if some compromises have to be done.
    The only production boats I've seen in this direction is the Bepox 750 http://www.voiliersbepox.com/ ; but is wider than 2,55m.
    I'm very interested in your opinion and very thankful about any suggestion.
    Good wind
     
  2. danera
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    danera New Member

    Have you looked at the Didi 26 (http://www.dixdesign.com/26didi.htm) - it's a couple of feet longer but other wise meets most of your criteria. At least one has been built with water ballast tanks, and a few with 20cm raised freeboard to get the headroom up to 1.55m, like mine. There is a builders forum here : http://www.didi26.org/

    Regards,

    Ivan
     
  3. rapscallion
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    rapscallion Senior Member

    You are looking for exactly what I'm looking for. I had fun checking out Kurt Hughes designs.

    I really like the stealth 8M, the Ross 780 for monohulls.
     
  4. Robin Larsson
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    Robin Larsson Junior Member

    Check out this..

    Hi!
    You should look att the boat Kavalier 800, http://www.boatdesign.net/nyd/K800/

    I think it looks like a great little boat, and looks roomy for sure, and should be fast with that large rig.

    I´m almost considering to build one myself:)

    And, that the plans a free isnt that bad either:)

    The guy that designed the K 800, he´s a regular here, thinks his name was Alic.

    //Robin Larsson
     
  5. la cage
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    la cage Junior Member

    I have recently designed for myself a 24 feetx 8 feet, multichine trailer salor useing my method of construction. You may be interested in looking at my web, site. www.bourneboats.com.au Cheers Peter from down under.
     
  6. Triman
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    Triman Junior Member

    Boat beam and performance

    Thanks to all for your replies;
    I considered the Didi 26 and cavalier 800, both excellent boats. I found that Didi has has a more complicated building system (radius chine) than multichine and is narrow, it looks like more to be a regatta-boat than a really 4x4 of the seas; Cavalier has an internal ballast system that is very good for shallow water, but is less seaworthy. So I'm still looking for a design that can bring together a good sea behavior, good performance and easiness by building.
    A very tricky point is to decide about overall beam: does a beamier boat (about 2,80 - 3m) have really better performances than a 2,55 m (trailable) boat? or are the differences not that far, so it is better to prefer a more easy to transort boat?
    thanks and good wind!
     
  7. nflutter
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    nflutter Junior Member

    i've sailed on all the stealth 8ms in existence, and the 7.8, and for a floating caravan, they offer the best internal volume to speed ratio i've seen. apparently theres a new one almost finished that is improved on the previous design, should beat the pants off pretty much every sportsboat in aus, with the possible exception of the bethwaite no-bedders. stealths have 0.5m removable wings, so you get the benefit of trailer action, but still nice wide decks, and heaps of power with crew on the rail. hot boats. my advice is get one.
     
  8. Triman
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    Triman Junior Member

    Hy to all,
    I didn't find infos about stealth 8m; do you have any link?
    thanks
     
  9. Stephen Ditmore
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    Stephen Ditmore Senior Member

    I'm not familliar with the Stealth either, but from the description it sounds like a Phuket 8.
    http://www.sea-phuket.com/boat-sales/phuket-sports-8s.htm
    http://asianyachting.com/AYmasters/Promotion/Phuket8.htm

    I am also a fan of the T830 (a version of which sold in the US as the Viper 830):
    http://www.tboat.com/T830-design.html

    The parameters of a GP26 are worth keeping in mind:
    http://www.orc.org/gp26.htm
    Upwind I suspect these boats may prove tender.

    Alik in these forums might be a source for plans
    http://www.boatdesign.net/gallery/showgallery.php/cat/500/page/11/ppuser/1473
     
  10. rapscallion
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    rapscallion Senior Member

    For the Stealth 8M, check the Sailing anarchy website; in the sportboat forum.
     

  11. rapscallion
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    His "pluto" design is pretty cool too. I want the cruising hull with the racing rig.
     
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