34th America's Cup: multihulls!

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by Doug Lord, Sep 13, 2010.

  1. oceancruiser

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    Dream on. Why do you think they are hell bent on winning it.
    To give $800 million plus to the Australian economy. Kiwis can see it live now.
     
  2. powerabout
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    Its a democracy, most of your voters are in OZ
    NZ gov will just charge an event fee like Bernie in F1
     
  3. oceancruiser

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    The NZ gov't had nothing to do with the last cup administration and they are not charging a fee on this cup and don't have a say on how ETNZ run the challenge except accounting details and reports for the $32 million the Labour party sports minister funded. John Key made a statement some time ago if they [ the Nation party ] where the gov't at that time they would not have funded the present challenge with the 32 million dollars.

    What's more Dalton is on record as saying he has no trouble finding sponsors and even ripped a 21 million dollar cheque into pieces and tossed it into the rubbish bin, supposedly to get the amount increased to have the brand displayed on the boat.
     
  4. michaeljc
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    Well, if it does end up in Auckland. The Aussies will be there. And what happens if they make a rule re all national crews? Aus would have to recruit from its refugee detention camps. Real boat people :)
     
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    good one
    lol
     
  6. Leo Lazauskas
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    Leo Lazauskas Senior Member

    I agree that a more varied course would add a lot of interest. It's a bit of a
    drag racing arrangement at the moment.

    As for the next generation and safety issues...
    It would be helpful if we knew what the acceptable limits would be if the
    next AC was held in Auckland. At its simplest: what is the maximum wave
    height and wind speed before a race is postponed?

    Are the average wave heights for the current AC races in SF available any
    where? (I appreciate that it's difficult given the shelter behind Alcatraz and
    other complicating factors).
     
  7. Leo Lazauskas
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    We could just recruit from the former kiwis in queues at the Bondi dole office. :)
     
  8. michaeljc
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    I think Auckland may be less predictable and more rapidly changeable. Recalling AC in Auckland there were a lot more pockets of low/high pressure. They even had guys up the masts locating them. I wouldn't like to aloft in these mothers :p
     
  9. Leo Lazauskas
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    I'm not sure it's such a huge problem because that's the conditions that will be
    faced and the design challenge that must be met. There's no getting around it
    if you want to compete.
    If they reduce the size of the boats (to 2/3 the length?) and only allow soft
    sails, then there will be many more competitors and many more design ideas,
    all working to meet the very flukey conditions in Auckland. (Provided the wheels
    don't fall off the present challenger, of course).
     
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    The only wheels falling off, will be from oracles futile attempts at keeping the cup... nzilla has been way out in front since the first boats were built, im suprised oracle has caught on as much as they have this far, but its too little too late, they cant win just by copying everything the kiwis have done...
     
  11. michaeljc
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    This sailing is still very much on the edge. One major failure or capsize and its all over. e.g. there is up to 9 ton stress on those foils. What about fatigue? The fat lady has not even arrived at the theatre yet.
     
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    Blackburn Senior Member

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    No Gloating!

    ETNZ's latest video about Tuesday's race #5:




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    Just a hint of Gloating!

    NZHerald has a nice cover Thursday!

    [​IMG]


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    Wallowing in Gloating to sell designer beer,

    'Moa beer' which is not a sponsor of ETNZ runs guerilla marketing campaign in the bars and cafés of leftist San Francisco. New Zealand's labor party must be delighted with the class warfare and billionaire-bashing.

     
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    Blackburn Senior Member

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    Here's something John Kostecki posted on his facebook page last December (he's only made five posts since):


    OK. We will now be happy to grant your wish.

    lol
     
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    Back to the all important issue of selling beer at the America's Cup!

    Steinlager is the long term sponsor of ETNZ. But they've done nothing with it so far.

    There's a god-awful boring poster available at their website with the text "Sail like it's 1995". If you google that phrase it results in ZERO hits today.

    The popular Veitchy on sport mistakenly said that Estrella was the team's sponsor the other day, being oblivious to the actual sponsor - Who can blame him?

    Everyone in the Steinlager marketing department has been ineptly doing other stupid things.


    So what is the preferred beer for ETNZ fans? Aotearoa Breweries? I would be surprised they could deliver more than a case or two.

    Here's a video showing how the team decided to brew their own beer, last November! And this is incidentally where you can see Grant Dalton ripping up a check for $25,000,000 - for which Dalton has recently been admonished here (see post 3018 above) by Oceancruiser!

    lol

     

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    I've read two or three articles this morning praising ETNZ's self tacking jib, and the lack of the same on Oracle's boat.

    What on earth is the complication that prevents quickly making a self tacker, for Oracle and their extensive worldwide boatbuilding conglomerate? The mounting and curved track is something they couldn't do, overnight?
     
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