34th America's Cup: multihulls!

Yes, Gary appears to become pretty emotional and touchy when it comes to multihulls vs. monohulls discussion. But that's called "passion" and I can understand him. However, there is a specific thread for that kind of discussions: http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/boat-design/multi-hulls-vs-mono-hulls-47013.html

Getting back to technical aspects of foiling multihulls, I was thinking about this: does anybody have a first-hand info about how much did the new AC boat type influence the physical preparation of sailors? Back in the big monohull days, the crew spent many hours in the gym, reinforcing the upper body to the point that some grinders had a muscle mass similar to that of rugby players. The crew weight was important even then, but not extremely important for displacement boats engaged in tactical races.

Now with flying cats looking for speed, the fully-laden boat's weight will certainly be of paramount importance for getting the lowest possible take-off speed and highest possible maximum speed. So the physical requirements for the crew must have changed accordingly. Contrary to monohull racing, crew's muscular mass could in this case become (that's my guess) detrimental for the race result.

Does anybody here have more info on that aspect of the new AC?

 

FFS, you two hyper sensitives to any mono criticism.
This foiling/flying in massively sized catamarans IS light years ahead of any monohull sailing experience.
Did I say light years.
A different world.
And a whisper in your sensitive ears: I wasn't knocking monohulls in my comment .... just pointing out the very different skills required, new skills,
to sail these hyper-cats. Something you don't experience on lead carrying designs. Comprehend?

 

Well-said: different. And that's all. Different.

Shall we move on?

 

If you want to keep the thread on track then stop slinging **** at monos.... it's fairly simple.

Oh, and claiming that something is "light years ahead" is an example of slinging **** at other forms of the sport.

 

this AC is probably the worst for AC hanger-on-ers racing multi's when they havent come from that background.
Now they need to invent cutting edge skills....

Ask a kiwi on the quite what they think....

 

Inventing new skills should help the sport grow. It would be entertaining to watch a round the buoys squarerigger race for comparison. Revived skills, men aloft, a grand pageant for advertising. Think of all the sails for logos....careful though, they could capsize.....

 

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Oracle and Team New Zealand-what fantastic state of the art^2 sailing machines they are!Cool pitchup of Oracle at about 6 min in-just when she lowers the stb board and gybes. Probably due to the wrong AOI on the boards and the reduction of pitch down force during the gybe. Took a bit for them to recover. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k16cBpXkHcc&feature=player_embedded

 

news on jimmy spithills dip http://tvnz.co.nz/sailing-news/not-all-smooth-oracle-s-spithill-5459027

 

Beautiful!

 

Err, the thread title is AC multihull (hydrofoilers); thought I was pretty much on course commenting on how completely alien they are to conventional boats.
Lose control of your crypto-sphincter muscles did you, CT?

 

Pretty cool videos. I couldn't tell if any of the guys were tethered..

 

they look big and clumsy on the water.
Looks like sailing for survival not racing

 

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"big and clumsy"!!?? You've got to be kidding! Did CT put you up to that?

 

HAHAHA, they look slow... until you see the chase boats following them and realize how fast theyre actually going... sorry doug, but team NZ looks so much more together and sorted than team USA

 

Eerr..no, that's you. The mere mention of a mono, gets you riled up and ranting obtuse nonsense.

No, you're constantly giving a soliloquy of your opinions/views on one myopic subject, yourself.

A discussion/debate is about exploring ideas/thoughts and see where they go with no prejudice or preconceived thoughts. It is called "enlightening the mind", something you appear unable to to do.

If you wish to remain debating about AC, then stay on track and stop deviating into on...mono's are crap etc etc. And as always, to ignore the lessons of the past/history usually results in no future and repeating the same mistakes. The AC past, these mono's can teach the current AC Multi's a lot in ways far beyond the "one hull is slow dull and boring", mantra you keep sprouting. Which is what everyone else is trying to do, explore and discuss the AC the good and bad, save for you alone.