300knt torpedo

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by zerogara, Feb 21, 2006.

  1. FranklinRatliff

    FranklinRatliff Previous Member

    The difference

    Except JFK was getting his advice from people who understood the physics and technology.
     
  2. stonebreaker
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    stonebreaker Senior Member

    OK, I'm all ears. Exactly what part of an intercept goes against the physical laws of the universe? If you can prove it mathmatically, then I'll agree that intercepting a torpedo is physically impossible.

    As far as technology, you create it as you need it - just ask Robert Goddard or Kelley Johnson. Or me.
     
  3. FranklinRatliff

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    Why?

    Why is nobody anywhere in the world, including the Russians, known to have developed anti-torpedo weapons?
     
  4. stonebreaker
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    stonebreaker Senior Member

    That question is a logical fallacy called Appeal to Ignorance, and the standard reply is "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."
     
  5. FranklinRatliff

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    Quoting logic

    Who says the absence of such weapons on any warships anywhere in the world is "absence of evidence"? Maybe it's EVIDENCE OF ABSENCE.
     
  6. stonebreaker
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    stonebreaker Senior Member

    Whatever. It's still not a valid argument. That's like saying, "I don't see any evidence of nukes on board the ship, so they must not be carrying any."
     
  7. FranklinRatliff

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    Ummm, no.

    Ummm, no. It's not like that. Saying "simply because I can't see anti-torpedo weapons on warships doesn't mean they aren't there" is just stupid.
     
  8. hansp77
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    hansp77

    RRHOUWWWH!
    (or more like it rrhouwwwh!)

    Little cat, little argument.
    No offense stonebreaker, but,
    this argument is getting rather weak.
    to deny any appeal to ignorance is to have to allow an infinite possibility of unlikely realities.
    eg. please provide evidence that you are not currently acting (unknown) under the "programming" of an alien intelegence who is dictating to you what to say, which will by the way (in retrospect) fit perfectly into a grand master plan of world domination!!!
    Sound unlikely?
    Does to me too,
    but neither you nor I could prove otherwise without appealing at some level to some form of ignorance.
    Absolute knowledge/enlightenment is never possible.
    We have to make do with what we have got.

    I don't mean to interrupt though…

    please continue. ;)
     

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  9. stonebreaker
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    stonebreaker Senior Member

    How is it stupid? Give me a reason.
     
  10. FranklinRatliff

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    Res ipsa loquitor.
     
  11. stonebreaker
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    stonebreaker Senior Member

    What speaks for itself? and it's spelled loquitUr, btw.

    Listen, if you want to get into some kind of trollish pissing match, be my guest. But I'm more interested in seeing your proof demonstrating how torpedo interception violates the physical laws of nature.
     
  12. FranklinRatliff

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    Laws of physics

    Traveling to another star system doesn't violate the laws of physics.

    Yet we're not even remotely close to having the technology for that one either.

    The technology existed in Da Vinci's time to build an unpowered glider, but that doesn't mean they could have built a supersonic jet fiighter.
     
  13. stonebreaker
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    stonebreaker Senior Member

    I'm still waiting for your proof. I'll even accept a logical arument, you don't have to prove the math. But comparing torpedo intercept to interstellar space flight is absurd. I would have said hitting a torpedo with another torpedo is as hard as hitting a comet with a spaceship. Oh wait, they've done that already...
     
  14. FranklinRatliff

    FranklinRatliff Previous Member

    Of course, they're the same.

    Of course they're the same, particularly the ******* argument that simply because they don't violate the laws of physics must mean we're somewhere remotely close to having the technology to do them.
     

  15. FranklinRatliff

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    Technology

    People who make simplistic statements like "you create it as you need it" are the ones who've never had to do anything more challenging than moving photons around with a keyboard. They start thinking reality must be equally easy to manipulate.
     
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