26' Trimaran refitt

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  1. Martin Goodman
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    Martin Goodman Junior Member

    Hi there,
    I have just catch a bargain trimaran. An 80's lady who was begging for mercy, pics in my gallery.

    I tried to identify it but unable to find any hint. The former owners claims was so called Medsail 26 although to me its a mix of both Ocqueteau Speed 770 and a Freely from the same designer and age. Sail plan is somewhat similar, full batten 25 sqm main 20 furling jib and a 60 sqm asymmetric.

    Having a look at the vaka sound like someone added and appendix at the aft for backstay rigging and a silly coffin for the outboard engine.
    rigging looks pretty outdated too with adjustable stays at the amas and 6 winches ¿?

    Wonder if any of you guys could point out anything else about her.

    I'm actually planning to chop cabin off to replicate an ample deck style like those from Kurt Hughes designs. I haven't decided yet whether I will keep this retros style cockpit or revamp it on a wider style like in the Freely.


    Your wise comments will be pretty much appreciated and welcome.

    Many thanks

    cheers

    Al
     
  2. upchurchmr
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    I can't help you identify the boat, but I'd suggest you sail it before you cut on it.
    It looks pretty well laid out for sailing, lots of room for a 26'.

    Have fun.
     
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  3. Martin Goodman
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    tks mate will do so. just would like to hear some feedback about gainibg deck space. cheers
     
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  5. Martin Goodman
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    tks mate. that's the one indeed, although I get for a fraction of the listed price ;-p
    However out of the same adverts in several sites I can't find any further references at all. The only thing owner told me was a former shipyard in north west Spain which built several units in those days.
    Tks for hint about Derek Kelsalls Typhoon/Hurricane will check it for further info on the net which will definitely help me for the refitting.

    cheers

    Al
     
  6. Martin Goodman
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    could anyone please confirm whether it may represent a major issue to move aft the stern cross beam?

    thanks
     
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    You are really asking that?
    Of course it is major structural issue.
    Are you an engineer who can analyse structure and can you design laminates?
    Do you know enough about the boat to even know what structure you have before you modify it?
    Is the boat made from polyester/ glass or epoxy/glass?
    Does it have foam core or balsa core?

    What are you "self employeed" at?

    Sorry about all that blast but it will all factor into if the boat gets modified or butchered.

    Have you worked out a SOR? Statement of Requirements.
    Its a clear cut definition of what you want to end up with.
     
  8. Martin Goodman
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    obviously if i asked is just because i have no clue.
     
  9. upchurchmr
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    Im sorry I had a shitty attitude.

    Any response to the other questions?

    Would you move the rear axle on your car to get more room inside?
    It's going to be the same thing as far as complexity and difficulty.
     
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  10. BlueBell
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    BlueBell Ahhhhh...

    Al, don't change the boat.
    Sail it for several outings before you decide.
    Fix what needs attention and sail the boat first, many times.
    Good luck, have fun.
     
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  11. Martin Goodman
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    tks a lot for your advice, will definitely fix as much as i can first. cheers
     
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  12. Martin Goodman
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    I think we are missing the perspective here. Just read carefully: an 8 m trimaran from the 80's abt 1000 kgs gross weight, daggerboard and with max sail area of 80 sqm may answer if not all almost all of your questions...
     
  13. upchurchmr
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    Martin,

    Your background has a lot to do with what would be reasonable suggestions.
    What you want to do with the boat also matters.

    I can read the description of the boat and did, it looks like a boat I would like, personally.

    If you don't want to answer its up to you.

    Marc
     
  14. trip the light fandango
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    Hi Martin, One of the tricky things about trying to alter a trimaran is that you are inevitably going to add more weight, so the boat will be slower. If you seriously over capitalise you could remedy this problem. Wind resistance[yours is pretty good] is also an important factor as is freeboard. The other key factor is simplicity. You could lengthen the beams a little ,but would need water stays and clever sleeving which will add more deck space and increase the speed potentially but make it more delicate to sail in that it decreases freeboard sort of and will be more prone to high speed bow submerging...unpleasant according to most accounts.
    You can add a bimini but unless it's very low you will need to raise the boom/increase the mast height or live with less sail area on the main. A square top sail could help or a longer boom and foot. The pod on the main hull is quite practical, I would be staring at how it reacts when under sail,where does it push water how much does it submerge when the boat squats on a beam reach in good wind. You could possibly reshape it as a sugar scoop. The abrupt end to the stern is a little unusual but maximises cockpit space. Your amas/floats/outer hulls are very fine which means they will bury and slow the boat down giving you time to adjust the main, change direction. they also will work very nicely in light winds I think, they could be made larger but it will be heavier and tricky. Have a good look at the 24ft buccaneer and farrier boats. Most tri's that size use tiny motors with long legs so your pod would have to be very effective to keep it. One of your beams starboard rear isn't sitting in its housing properly.
    As Bluebell says , get the boat seaworthy and use it quite a bit before changing anything, there is more pepper grinders on your boat than my limited experience sees as normal, so a previous owner either had lots of money, difficulties with their arms or both.
    It all boils down to what do you want to do with the boat, where will you use it, do you like rough weather, how fast do you want to go and how much money are you prepared to waste/ I mean spend,
     
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  15. trip the light fandango
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    ....a new well cut sail is like a new motor in a car..Mainsails without reefing points on small tri's like this are problematic, put them in or get it done. It is a really nice early 80's boat with more open sitting space than many, and it looks strong. Or sell it and buy a tremolino, ha.. sorry, cheers . Oh and you may need a dry suit if your sailing in rough winter conditions. You can add nets to increase deck space without adding much weight
     
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