12' cabin racing boat

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  1. christophesail
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    I was wondering if there is any interest in an easy to build, performance microcruiser. 12' long and six foot beam. Main sail with a tiny bow sprit, little jib for light air and a chute for off the wind. Ideally, it would be for adventure races, like the everglades challenge, texas 200, etc... could accommodate two down below. Also could do other races coastal or protected bay. A down or up or both chesapeake race. Long island sound race. Intercoastal waterway challenge race, etc.... I'm attaching a drawing for review and feedback. [​IMG]
     
  2. upchurchmr
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    No, never.

    Perhaps you need to actually design the rest instead of just a one sided illustration.

    I assume that it a catamaran?

    Why in the world do you have a reverse bow? Just following fashion?
     
  3. christophesail
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    Of course the rest is designed. I only posted a profile pic. This forum is archaic for photo upload and in general.

    At any rate. Thanks for responding that you wouldn't consider it. It is not a catamaran. It is a monohull. reverse bow, why not ?
     
  4. upchurchmr
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    What benefit are you going to get on a reverse bow?
     
  5. christophesail
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    christophesail Junior Member

    google it, you can learn a lot about hydrodynamic drag online.
     
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    I know what the benefit of a reverse bow is.
    And it doesn't match this situation.

    What I asked is why did you choose it.
     
  7. christophesail
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    Well. Aesthetics are the first reason. Keeping up with modern trends in boats like this. The boat doesn't need reserve buoyancy in the bow. It has plenty. Forward of the mast on this size boat is wasted space and weight. However much that is. It also is hydrodynamicslly faster, but practicality says the average person would never experience it. So. Why did I choose it? Because it fits the design of the boat and takes it from the same boring brick of a paneled boat and makes it a little more modern.
     
  8. messabout
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    Christopher you are surely not aware of the credentials of the people with whom you are communicating. You have busted your own chops by suggesting that we "Google it". This forum is subscribed by some of the best minds, most educated and experienced professional naval architects on the surface of the earth. It is also populated by a very large contingent of people with vast experience in the world of boats and ships and the general marine industry.

    If you participate here, with a modicum of humility and a willingness, even eagerness to learn, then you will be welcomed and respected. If you choose to beguile yourself in the belief that you can know what there is to know by using Google, then you would be better advised to move on to some kiddy car forum,...... not this one.
     
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  9. christophesail
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    Thanks for the feedback.
     
  10. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    Welcome to the forum.

    Post a set of lines, as the image provided tells very little. No colors, no shading, just a wire frame in the three usual views, so we can see her WL's, buttocks, diagonals, sectional choices, etc. Maybe post some hydrostatic information as well as basic dimensional parameters.
     
  11. Petros
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    Welcome to the forum,

    you might go check out the "hardware class boats" thread. In it a lot of members develop the concept for a low cost class of sailboat, $600 build budget, 14' hull, 16' overall length, 5 ft beam and a few other size limits. There are several under construction now and a few on the water. The idea was to develop a lot cost class where one is only limited by budget and your imagination. I had proposed that there would be different types of raceing, including a "raid" type out and back with over night gear.

    in the lengthy thread are the complete rules. The idea is to get a number of people building to these simple rules, and that we race them at various events. And the winner publishes the plans so we can develop a library of good performing home built low cost sailboat.
     
  12. motorbike
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    A 12 foot cabin racing boat is an oxymoron
     
  13. rwatson
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    Absolutely. If you bother to draw the 'human' inside it, the proportions say it all.

    The other big factor, the engine, is non present either.

    The OP has never heard of weight tables either by the look of it.
     
  14. sharpii2
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    How about giving us a table of particulars, such as Beam, Sailing Draft, expected Displacement, and Sail Area for starters, then maybe a top and bottom view, if you can manage?
     

  15. Mr Efficiency
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    Oh, I thought the left hand end was the bow !
     
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