Spira pangas and hello

I got plans for the quintana and veracruz. I got the 50 page book on general construction and a 6 page specific. It has most of the info but not all. Im really lookin to see the plywood layered in the front of the boat. Pics of inside of boat should even be helpful. Im also having trouble with figuring out the build of the bottom. I hope one of you can help. Ive already spent my $800 for wood and epoxy is bout to be ordered .
How can epoxy go from. $30-315 for 2 gallons epoxy. This is important stuff, im planning on taking my 8 year old about 20 miles offshore w (1) tiller 90 hp.
Thanks all,
Kiry
JUST NORTH OF WILMINGTON, NC

 

Do I need to send something in to prove im not a computer. Wood is getting miscut already and i just need help with about 5 softball level questions . Im not a computer, just an easy to talk to shipbuilder.
Spira Quintana or veracruz
Thank you, I hope.

Biggest question Is am I missing vital paperwork. I have the 50 page "building the boat" and then the 5-7 page pamphlets with specific but for ex: how do you attach the rail around boat or use plywood on the floor or the 2x3s that I bought mentioned because it was on the list of supplies, but listed nowhere in the direction. Is there a extra 3 page publication on application im missing.
Help me please, I addressed the computers cause of trepidation above so this is above board.
Is this thing on?

 

Your posts are getting through... Hopefully somebody will have some useable answers for you or at least be able to give some idea of where to look.

Where did you get the plans?

 

there is a youtube video of pictures of a build you will see the staved bottom used to fit the bow section shown in it. As it is a plywood hull I would glue the rails to the sides. Adhesive bedding compound like 3M 5200 would work too. Start fastening from the middle outwards or from one end to the other.

 

Thank you very much for chiming in. I restarted this project 4x. Didn't know about Mr Spiras passing until after my recent re-tart. He'd personally take calls and you dont get that kind of appreciation from many vendors at all.
Thanks for the ideas on hulling the boat. I was really debating continuing things if I had to do it alone paperwork wise. Im thrilled there are peopl who can still help. This gluing really sounds good. Than you . Is there a anything other than the 50 page big book print out and I got 6 pages per panga size but there's nothing about how too
start the hull plant, start hull, building a strongback fitting it or my quintana and they were out before youtube i xo t planseven says i need 14 pieces of thick plywood. It's got to be either a simple ..mistake but it doesn't build confidence.
Sorry about bad typing.
Thanks again. Really good hp


Today I decided to switch to the veracruz from the quintana . Looks the same

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Good luck with this. Here is a "loan" copy of Spira's Ply on Frame book.
https://dn720002.ca.archive.org/0/i...ing-30-pages/Ply On Frame Manual 50 Pages.pdf

Here is his stitch & glue manual.

https://rexresearch1.com/BoatShipBuildingLibrary/StitchAndGlueManual.pdf

Other designers and builders have published guides which pertain to general boat building. You will collect a library over time and become a salty old coot handing out advice.

 

Fasco 103 LVX Epoxy Resin System 3 gallon kit Slow https://fiberglasssupplydepot.com/Fasco-103-LVX-Epoxy-Resin-System.html?srsltid=AfmBOoqxJgwv3BuWow5WjgS0wA3MwSQcaGSZoTpKB6TZ_kuujOh_0tyl

 

Im a little lost on the ribs. "I thought" in the middle of the ribs was butt joints. This is the only way I can read it but the keelson cutout i see is supposed to be wide enough it would cut off all the "v" support under the boat. It almost looks like they put the cutoff piece of back under the keelson. How have i mistaken this staple of yachtbuilding? Thank you all.
Kiry laufer

 

Sorry, I didn't realize that last night's pics were so bad so here goes.. it seems as if the bottom ribs will lose their rigid v supports.
Thanks all,
Kiry laufer

 

did you watch the video? 23 seconds in it shows butted frames the dashed lines in your drawing is the top of the frames looks like the notches only go half way through the frames., with some of the keelson protruding that gets planed off into a vee. you asked what were all the 2x3s on the materials list for. apparently they are for the frames and floor timbers as per the drawing.

 

OK, I think I finally understand. The keelson is always the v and only sits on the bottom of ribs
Will cutting the keelson groove in a rib set not separate the existing rib.? Just cut tip into groove and then fill fill inner to hold it and place and other corner becomes a shaven into v? Is this right? Again, my apologies for poor writing and worse punctuation, things are tough all over.
Tx
Kiry laufer

 

The floor timber shown sits on top of the keelson is screwed and glued to the frame ends and keelson to hold things together.

 

Sorry waterwitch, poor reading attacks me whats happening in black and white. It only took a few hours to understand what you said. Good info, thanks Sometimes it's really tough to tell what I need to do to a spira specifically to keep it afloat.thanks for the help guys and ladies.
Thanks
Kiry laufer
Ps. To the guy who resent the 50 page book, good stuff too. I had to look at yours to see the first pic in the spira book is actually a hull. I thought it was flat bottom. But the guy was just leaning. You can juuust about see the keelson ive learned about. I'll crawl back in my hole until I can quote all 50 pages in spira book perfectly and describe the corresponding illustration. Thanks again for good info to all

 

Would you put the lumber touching on a floor or leave 1/4" gaps? If it matters I plan to use a cheap(hopefully) self bailing kit on the boat. Im thinking as long as i build up the front of the floor at an angle it will just flow out. I read straight pipes through hull actually ok and you dont have to plug the the cork plugs, water wont flow in. Instead of a 50 hp struggling to hit 30 at full blast why wouldn't a 75 hp be cheaper on gas. How can a 50hp at 80% be cheaper than 75 hp at 35% output. This affects how I build the transom. Or just hold the motor. Sorry, I get lost.
Thanks,
Kiry laufer


Very sorry if a duplicate posting