Need fast, EFFICIENT, commuter boat

The Aussies by the way, take even the little Quinnies into some big water ;-). I think the little 140 Estuary Angler, with 30-40HP to motivate her, the windshield to keep out spray and a bimini overhead to shield you from those rainy Oregon autumn days... would work out great right from the factory.

 

You may want to have a look at Craig Loomes wave peicing tri's

http://www.cld.co.nz/welcome.htm

Goto: design portfolio/Wavepeicer Tri's/6m test model.

There's video of it somewhere making 25-30kt's through reasonable swell with barely a nod to the waves. through not over them.

Rob

 

The only solution where speed and distance can be combinedis using a W.I.G.E. kind of boat.
We have discussed this before in the Forum and I think that pictures are still there. I have no pictures right at hand but there are plenty examples of low HP and high speed.
The only biut is that a WIGE needs pretty flat water to operate on it's top speed. I don't know the area but waves higher that 0.50 mtr will make the flight
uncomfortable.
On the other hand, with a 28 hp engine a top speed of 60-70 knots is not impossible.

Just to give an idea.

 

Hmmm

Hmmm - interesting to say the least - that is different alright. Very impressive - what he's been able to achieve at a technical level, and yet, in my opinion, he won't sell many of these. The hull is very narrow, and the passenger-accessible area is completely enclosed with a thin band of glass to see outside. There really is no external deck to speak of. That's not a recipe for success for pleasure boating, commercial or sport fishing, skiing, tour-boating, or even rescue applications.

While the outriggers must do a lot to keep the boat upright, if it ever pitchpoles or capsizes in the extreme conditions that I assume it's made for, they will also make it virtually impossible to right again.

One thing I can imagine would be good on this boat is ride in rough water - if it travels more on a horizontal line through waves rather than over them, that should improve comfort in rough conditions.

Finally, I can't imagine a custom boat like this will be real cheap. I am not in the market for an extreme conditions type boat, but if I was, I'd rather have something like a Coast Guard Lifeboat. It's fully enclosed like the Wave-Piercer, but is self-righting and has a large interior space for people as well as usable outside decks, and is a well proven practical design.

I have to wonder what the target customer profile is for that boat?

 

I'm rather tempted by the hydrofoil idea. Foil-assisted cats might be something to look at as Greg suggests. Long, thin monohull shapes (length/beam on the order of 5/1 or more) might also have something to offer. But I do think that your combined goals of speed, economy and rough-water performance are going to be exceedingly difficult to meet.

 

Matt,

How about a carbon fiber catamaran with hydrofoils? You could even hang a long-tail propulsion unit between the hulls with a large surface-piercing prop to make it efficient. Go talk to Steve Rander, he's just down the creek from your place.

Yoke.

 

What the...

Hello..

Here is a bit of strange from my head based on that Diogene bit...

SH

 

awww mann Sean where is Q when we need him...
however there is this i ran across http://www.nwboatschool.org/boats/Boat_Detail.aspx?processID=5

 

Looks like an old BF.109, with amas and an outboard... kewl
I'd go with a different paint scheme myself....
Sean, how would the stability be on that thing at speed, with all that lift in the stern?

 

A couple thoughts.

- some have mentioned the foil cat. There is a lightweight 6.5m RIB with the hysucat foil. There used to be an importer in Ventura, CA - but their website has been down for a long time. Try http://www.stealthyachts.com/ They pop up occasionally on the used market, but there weren't than many brought into the states. I think you'd get better efficiency with a single outboard. I have no idea how this compares with the jetski.

- If the jet ski is close to working - get a newer 4 stroke quiet ski. I know it's cold, but get yourself foul weather gear, some fleece, and a helmet. That will be cheaper and lighter than a fiberglass cockpit to sit in - think of it as riding a motorcycle.

Whatever you do, you have to keep the weight and drag to an absolute minimum.

 

Sounds like what you want is a seaplane. A "light sport" license is easier to get and you will get great mileage and speed.

 

I'm researching the swath boats that have boasted 60 percent more fuel efficiency, plus they are faster and stable on rougher waters. Somewhere out there, there is a webpage that for what ever reason I can't find again of a man building a small 10 or 15 foot swath with thin tubes as his pontoons. It looked to be about 4 feet wide at the most. The tubes are rounded or pointed slightly and a small platform built between them.

Swaths are just under water pontoon boats and because the pontoons are already under water, there is no wave resistance to them. The pontoons have a thin wall, or in the small swath's plans a thick piece of metal running horizontal across the pontoons about double the length of width of the pontoon, and the platform is attached to the wall.

http://www.unols.org/publications/manuals/SBCompendium/11SWATH.pdf

Hope that might help.

 

Here the swath boat is that I mentioned.

http://www.xboats.net/index.html

 

I'm so glad somebody bumped this thread.

SEAN, GET THAT LITTLE BOAT BUILT!!!