Large sharpie for the Adriatic

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  1. tane
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    No offense intended, but "unsafe in any sea!" comes to mind..
     
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    This looks like an interesting evolution of v bottom bateau or skipjack. What is the general consensus on well immersed bow knuckles? It would be good for motoring dead into chop but what about sailing downwind with big following seas?
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    Scary. Bow steer. At least it seems to be vapor ware at this point.
     
  4. tane
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    twist in the bottom panels...this will not be possible in ply
    pivoting keel & fixed rudder?
    aesthetics....?
    (again: no offense intended, but looks more like a caricature than a boat, but if these guys are the designers:
    "Award winning design agency, specializing in Branding, Packaging and Digital Experiences that stand out in today's dynamic marketplace."...no wonder)
     
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    The twist in the bow reminds me of Ross Lillistone's Flint rowboat, its a 13ft 4 sheet rowing/sailing dinghy and even in that case the twist is mangeable only with high quality ply and barely.
     
  6. skaraborgcraft
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    No reason for the heel of the bow to be so square, i would be more comfortable with the thought of running in a following sea with a large curvature instead. I can also live with the drag of a slightly oversized rudder.......one nasty broach in a following sea with the masthead in the water is enough.
     
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  7. tane
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    could it be the "Ciara 26" is a "design object" & not a "boat"? Not designed by a naval architect but by an "industrial designer"? Apart from the overall look the placement of the winches, the position of rear end of the tiller in relation to the rudder & the keel area & aspect ratio strongly suggest that...
    & I would not wonder if it were one of the (rare) "lollers"...
     
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    Haha i did not noticed the winches
    Definitely not a work of naval architect.
     
  9. Igor
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    There is a fella who got himself a New Haven 35 sharpie, soon he will put it in the water and start uploading videos on YouTube:)

    The "sharpie sailboat association" page is up and running on Facebook and members are discussing and posting their sharpies.
     

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    downflooding angle?
     
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    Hard to tell. Soon he will have it in the water hopefully, I am interested to see how this thing goes.
     
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    One year later...
    Any updates?
     
  13. tane
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    ...swamped by a 10" wave & lost with all hands?
     
  14. Igor
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    Got a job in Norway, no time to build now. Life happens..

    There is an article in new Woodenboat magazine about Bill Schwicker surfing offshore 10' pacific ocean breakers in his Egret and having a blast ;)
     
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  15. tane
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    ...yes, why worry about stability curves, angles-of-vanishing-stability, downflooding angles, STIX,... - when somebody did something outrageous with an unsuitable boat?
    The Atlantic has been crossed on windsurfers, Hobie cats, pedal-driven boats, rowboats, canvas-covered canoes & even an amphibious Jeep - this doesn't, by any stretch of imagination, make these conveyances suitable for this endeavour.
    [​IMG] probably has redeeming factors (for some): easy to build, shallow draft, historic value, maybe even aesthetic value ("...eye of the beholder.." & all), but seaworthiness? Some boats, when you see them, wake a desire in me to cross an ocean in them, for them to take me to the South Pacific - the "New Haven sharpie" - not so much. (But then, it's aesthetics don't do much for me either...)
     
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