Norman Cross Trimaran

John wants a 1000$ for those plans. And im not crazy about the center cockpit, the dagger board and the modifications i would have to make to the mast. I have very experienced engineer here to modify the cross. The 40 would most likely be ideal. There is as i said longstanding boatyard here with experience in design and engineering of multihulls so i am oretyy confident i can work out the engineeri g . Thanks for all yor help. I will continue on in putting together a viable plan for a cross boat if possible. I want inboard diesel. Also i want a tiller to accomodate autopilot unit and to have more room in cockpit. I want to keep weight to no more than 10000 lbs and i want a fixed keel with no more than 4' of draft. I will keep working thru these specs. My email address is briandterry@hotmail.com. if u are inyerested we can correspond as i go thru the process. I appreciate your guidance so far! Stepping stones.

 

Send me a pm when the plans roll in and I'll email you. I might have some 37 material here I'll ponder for suggestions. We can go dark to keep from horrifying the kids but I understand where you are coming from. I was thinking the centerboard of the Sea Clipper wouldn't wash with you but the rig could be altered to your masthead set up. Norm's performamce versions were stretched on similar scantlings so I think you'll be in the ball park.

If you've got one of the local Wharram builders on hand have you thought of one of those? Material wise you can get a longer cat than a wing deck tri for the same money.

 

There is a wharram guy here, but not interested in those cats. I will be doing charters here in phil and the cat doesn't really fit my goals. I have owned cats and tris and I'm always prefer tris overall for many reasons. Not really looking to go longer. And will be putting in straight shaft diesel for power plant and nets up front. Would also like to fit in a windlass as well. Day charters with 10 to 12 snorkelers, and island hopping and fast trimaran sailing is the goal!! Thanks for your help, I am getting a message out to dsanduril and will see where that goes to get later version plans for the 38.

 

Cannot seem to get on cruisers forum to contact dsanduril. Ive been blocked for some unknown reason. Maybe u can shoot a message to him regarding plans for a modified cross 38. Im not a builder, just a long time captain of wooden tris and a modern lagoon 42, so excuse me for neophyte questions and lack of terminology. Still also searching for nicol plans as well. Thanks again for your help. My email is briandterry@hotmail.com if you come across any plans that I can purchase.

 

I’m having trouble with cruiser forums too.

 

I'll see if I can get some results but the Cross 40 was basically a longer 38. These boats aren't speed burners but good sailors for cruising. It won't be faster than your Nicol. Make sure your crew is fine with double diagonal planking etc... Have you checked out the Farrier plans suggested? If you aren't going longer they tick some boxes.

 

Yes they have experience with cross diagonal construction. The farriers i looked at had were not winged. I will check again. I need deck space for charters. Not too many tri's match the speed of my old hed nic. A real racer. Speed and pointability always nice, but im more interested in how many peeps i can take for charters, and draft and being able to accommodate an inboard diesel with straight shaft for prop. And as i said a tiller to accommodate my piston raymarine auto pilot, rated for 10000lbs. Which worked just fine on my old hed nic. Also i like the tiller to fold up and increase cockpit space. And as u said I'm trying to accommodate with my old sails, mast and standing rigging and roller furlings all of which i salvaged off the buccaneer. It also would be nice to have akick up rudder box which i had on the buccaneer. And i would like to build in a windlass, possibly davits and a gantry for a solar array. I will check the farriers again but the ones i saw had foldable amas, not designed to accommodate 10 to 15 people for charters.

 

Yes I don't see any farrier that will suit my deck space requirements. I need old school "barge" trimaran design!! And it would be nice to have stern sugar scoop steps on back but then maybe cant have kick up rudder box. Maybe its better to have ladder mounted on stern between ama and hull. We will also be diving off boat and old style tris are the way to go. It's basically a big swim platform when on the hook.

 

Todays suggestion is for a Horstman TriStar Something like the 37xrc would take your rig, the rudder could kickup, straight shaft inboard, wing deck, transom nice angle for a dive ladder. Plans are cheaper than the SeaClipper 38 by several hundred bucks and payload is the same. Performance on the xr series is good, faster than the Cross for sure. Ed has several designs that would work so check them out. Considering the price and effort of a build the plan ante is nominal.

Sent a message to Dsanduril but my last communication is from several years ago.

 

Ok. Thanks ill give it a looksee. The virginia museum is also conjuring up plans for the cross 37 so i will have options thanks again. Ill let you know how things progress.

That really seems to be the right fit. Trying to order study plans but website does not seem to be working! Another online challenge!