Mike Waller yacht design opinions?

No one has mentioned Fish & Chips ?
Plans for 7.3 catamaran http://www.teamscarab.com.au/7.3Des.html
just putting it out there.

 

Bob. I spoke to Ross Turner when he was alive about the CC 24 (Jarcat 24) and he said it was intended to be a trailable 24 footer with a 10 foot beam. The boat grew as he designed it and ended up with more headroom, more displacement and was not going to be a practical trailing cat. At least one was built and there were 2 jpegs on the web a few years back. He was unhappy with the result and suggested to either go with a Jarcat 6 or Coral Coaster 29, don't be in the middle with a difficult to trail and launch 24 footer but not quite an ocean cruiser. The TC750 is probably a better option from what I can remember about the CC 24.

To add to your thoughts. Jarcat have a Jarcat 6C which is actually 1 meter longer (total length 23 foot) and aimed at power. But as shown in Jpegs a person has put a rig on one. The web entry is https://www.jarcatyachts.com/Jarcat6C.html

The jpegs come from a Jarcat "7 meter" advertised in South Australia on Gumtree

 

Oldmulti, thanks for the jarcat info. I found the jarcat 6c ad and it looks like a regular jarcat stretched longitudinally only. The 7 is neat but I can't imagine there is much room inside.

Reuben, I have seen fish and chips before. That link brought me to the Siren 8.4, which I do not remember. Siren looks like it has a real dinette and near standing headroom which is pretty cool. That's probably closer to what I want, although I like the waller cat better.

Btw, did anyone know Waller also writes science fiction novels?

 

From what has been said I think a J6 would be too small. The OP wants an enclosed head which can be achieved in most of the boats mentioned but an enclosed dinette puts several boats out of contention. Unless F&C was built with a cuddy/pod it would not meet that criteria.

You might get the accommodations in a smallish trimaran like one of Ray Kendrick's boats. Galley aft dinette then enclose forward for a head. The boat would fold for berthing, but I suspect you'd want something like the scarab 8, MAYBE the 22. I can never remember which of the 22' versions has the biggest cabin. I have the avalon 9 plans and I think it's a lovely boat, but not cheap to build and I can't make the accommodations work for my wants.

The trouble with the tris is they are a lot dearer and take longer to build for a given displacement.

Plans for both larger jarcats are no longer available. I would love a set of J24 plans just to see what he did.

I thought the larger Kendrick catamaran would be too big for you but maybe that's an option ? It would be great to see one built.

 

Guzzi, I like the big jarcat. With the flush deck it's almost like having an open deck cat. That said it's a bigger than I want, guessing it's twice as much boat vs TC750? I was able to find a remnant of the classified as for the CC29 bought by those surfers up in Washington. Dinette still looks cramped despite the size. If I did want a cat of that size I would just buy a used Gemini 105.

I don't think I want a trimaran because they seem to have so much less useable space both above and below. They also have some of the disadvantages of monohulls.

I looked more carefully at the large Kendrick catamaran and it's too small on the inside in the areas I care about. The dinette is only 4ft across and the space for the head is only 20 inches wide. And there are four double beds which is weird.

As I said earlier I want a enclosed head, a dinette, and raised cockpit seating in a catamaran. TC750 does that pretty well without being too big or heavy.

Kohler's eco 7.5 has a great interior but the exterior seems dangerous with all the sloping surfaces.

 

As I said earlier I want a enclosed head, a dinette, and raised cockpit seating in a catamaran. TC750 does that pretty well without being too big or heavy.

You could get all that on an eagle with an appropriately designed cuddy cabin but if you like the waller well and good.

 

Memory well and truly jogged - I had forgotten corresponding with Ross, in the early 2000s, over an aft cockpit version of the CC29 mentioned on his website.
he sent some information, a layout plan and a material list. In comparison to the centre cockpit version it had double bunks forward in the dinette space, saloon in the centre cockpit space and the rear cockpit occupying the original aft cabin space. He sent a photo of one (aft cockpit) that had been built but of course I can't find it.

The CC24 looks like a useful boat and is roughly comparable to the Waller 750 in many respects. It is a bit lighter, but the end version of the CC24 was not designed to trail. Incidently the CC29 supposedly had an empty weight of 1250kg which is also comparable with the Waller. Probably a reflection of some of the heavier materials used in the TC 750.

Attached pdfs courtesy of the wayback machine JARCAT Catamaran Designs https://web.archive.org/web/20050209025535/http://members.ozemail.com.au/~rhturner/