12 foot trimaran, can someone tell me if this center hull looks about right?

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by jtrosclair, Sep 9, 2021.

  1. jtrosclair
    Joined: Apr 2017
    Posts: 5
    Likes: 0, Points: 1, Legacy Rep: 10
    Location: New Orleans

    jtrosclair Junior Member

    I am designing a 12 foot trimaran to be carried in my truck. For that reason, it can't really be longer than 12 feet. I have already built 10 foot amas from the Drifter 12L plans from Mark Gumbercht.

    My design goal is something that is fast with one person, but can be sailed with two people. This would be a crew weight of about 330 pounds. I am basically trying to build a Bazooka 12 trimaran. There is little info on these trimarans because they only made 26 of them, and stopped making them some years ago. I have created my own center hull design in freeship and would like some criticism before I finalize and build.

    The boat will be sailed in lake Ponchartrain which can be pretty choppy. I'd like to deck the first 4 feet of hull and then put a self draining cockpit for the remaining 8 feet. The foot of the sail is about 8 feet long, so I anticipate mounting the mast 2 feet from the bow.

    The rig will be a 65 square foot unstayed cat rig from a Sea Eagle inflatable catamaran. It is a boomed square head rig which furls on the mast like a Hobie Bravo or Adventure island.

    1.) How important is it that the transom never be in the water? To achieve this my design would end up with a portion of the stern not in the water when just sailing with one person. This shortens the already short waterline. Do you think there is too much rocker in the rear? What about the front?

    2.) Do you think it's too wide? Would I be better off with a narrower hull with more draft? At the designed waterline in the linesplan, it's displacing about 450 pounds. I assume the complete boat will come in around 120-140 pounds. This leaves about 320 pounds for the crew.


    Any help is appreciated. Let me know if I should post some other files from freeship.
     

    Attached Files:

  2. oldmulti
    Joined: May 2019
    Posts: 2,588
    Likes: 1,674, Points: 113
    Location: australia

    oldmulti Senior Member

    Jtrosclair. If your weight estimates are OK then the shape is OK. You need to understand where the centre of buoyancy is and where your weight will be placed on the tri, as this dictates if the stern will drag occurs. In most designs the centre of buoyancy is 52 to 55 % aft from the bow. The thinner the hull the better BUT if it cannot carry the weight you want it will gain to much wetted surface slowing you down in light weather. The Drifter main hull works well and I suspect your main hull will work well. The greatest test is building and sailing it. Good luck.
     
  3. jtrosclair
    Joined: Apr 2017
    Posts: 5
    Likes: 0, Points: 1, Legacy Rep: 10
    Location: New Orleans

    jtrosclair Junior Member

    I actually cut the frames for the main drifter hull, but it is really more of a boat for protected waters. I also did not want a boat where I sat in the hull like a kayak. I've tried to add as much volume aft as possible because I anticipate the center of the crew weight should skew aft. But the design did end up with a waterline beam of 1.887 feet. That puts the length to beam ratio at 1: 6.35; this seems high. Should I be aiming for a wide flat aft section for planing? Or a thinner canoe section for low drag? I'm not sure if the rig would really have the horsepower to plane it with two people in most scenarios.
     
  4. upchurchmr
    Joined: Feb 2011
    Posts: 3,287
    Likes: 259, Points: 83, Legacy Rep: 579
    Location: Ft. Worth, Tx, USA

    upchurchmr Senior Member

    The shape looks good assuming you have done your bouyancy and CG correctly.
    A small multihull is extremely sensitive to where the sailor weight is located.
    Not unusual to have to move 2 feet for the difference between tacking and reaching.
    If you can't move your cg due to the restricted length, you will have to accept that some times you will not have the "propper" trim, meaning the lowest drag.

    I hope you make a thread to let us follow your design and build.
     
  5. guzzis3
    Joined: Nov 2009
    Posts: 848
    Likes: 159, Points: 43, Legacy Rep: 42
    Location: Brisbane

    guzzis3 Senior Member

  6. redreuben
    Joined: Jan 2009
    Posts: 2,000
    Likes: 223, Points: 63, Legacy Rep: 349
    Location: South Lake Western Australia

    redreuben redreuben

    And at A$150.00 how can you go wrong ?
     
  7. upchurchmr
    Joined: Feb 2011
    Posts: 3,287
    Likes: 259, Points: 83, Legacy Rep: 579
    Location: Ft. Worth, Tx, USA

    upchurchmr Senior Member

    Hughes has a similar design.
    Marples has a similar design.
    There are a couple others I think.

    OP have you seen them?

    A round bilged version in strip plank / ply should be easy and quick. And cheap (my favorite).
     
  8. jtrosclair
    Joined: Apr 2017
    Posts: 5
    Likes: 0, Points: 1, Legacy Rep: 10
    Location: New Orleans

    jtrosclair Junior Member


    I had actually purchased his plans for the Scarab 10. But it doesn't fulfill my design needs. I need this boat to be able to be broken down into the major components (hulls, crossbeams) for storage. The Scarab designs are all folding. Also, overall the Scarab designs are a little more complicated. They have a lot of chines and pieces. This is my first boat and I wanted to build it relatively quickly and cheaply. If I build something like a Scarab, I'll want to invest in real marine plywood, etc. That rapidly increases the price. Long term, I am intrigued by the Scarab 16.
     
  9. jtrosclair
    Joined: Apr 2017
    Posts: 5
    Likes: 0, Points: 1, Legacy Rep: 10
    Location: New Orleans

    jtrosclair Junior Member

    I've looked at them all, but none are quite what I'm looking for. The seaclipper 13 is close, but the flared out cockpit at the top of the hull would interfere with my intended storage solution.
     

  10. guzzis3
    Joined: Nov 2009
    Posts: 848
    Likes: 159, Points: 43, Legacy Rep: 42
    Location: Brisbane

    guzzis3 Senior Member

    Last edited: Sep 10, 2021
Loading...
Forum posts represent the experience, opinion, and view of individual users. Boat Design Net does not necessarily endorse nor share the view of each individual post.
When making potentially dangerous or financial decisions, always employ and consult appropriate professionals. Your circumstances or experience may be different.