Sea Sled madness. It’s in my brain.

Discussion in 'Fiberglass and Composite Boat Building' started by DogCavalry, Nov 11, 2019.

  1. BlueBell
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    BlueBell . . . _ _ _ . . . _ _ _

    That framing is just a mock-up I believe.
    I'm suggesting you eliminate the top "Dutch" door,
    and make the lower door open out for water flooding reasons primarily.
    The top glass section could simply slide to port for A/C and passage.

    Hell, the bottom could slide across too for that matter!

    Yes, tempered glass triangles
     
  2. DogCavalry
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    I see what you mean.
     
  3. DogCavalry
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    Or this... turns out in 20 years I forgot how to do perspective drawings. 20210411_213918.jpg

    So the lower door opens out the the left. The upper door swings up against the ceiling. Might be a bit too clever in daily use. But less blindspots, and no harder to build.
     
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  4. BlueBell
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    BlueBell . . . _ _ _ . . . _ _ _

    My only concern with this is weather sealing the top section.
    Rain and greenies from over the bow.
    Sliding to port may be easier in that regard.
     
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  5. DogCavalry
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    I do a lot of door sealing. We make passivhaus homes. Airtight.
     
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  6. Lloyd Too
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    Things that popped in my head, fwiw:

    -- Keep in mind that the type/style of door also dictates whether the door operates as a single door or two separate doors - an upper and a lower.

    -- Swinging out/fwd makes sense from a "Katy bar the door, all hell's breaking loose" and "it's a working boat, dammit" perspective but I don't know how much of that is needed since I've not been on your grounds and have less than zero experience with your hull style.
    (My experience is/was trolling Lake Michigan S. of Milwaukee(Racine/Wind Point) from 10 yards- to 10 miles- out in a 28' single-screw ChrisCraft "Catalina" from Easter until a month before Thanksgiving; Small Craft Warnings didn't scare us....)

    -- You mentioned possibly having cargo out front, would that impeded the door?

    -- IF she sneezes for otherwise throws water up/fwd from her bows while you're doing 30kts/hr into a 10mph breeze and the door window is open.....?


    I don't feel that I have the "board/forum cred" to interject questions but your build is wicked cool, intrigues the snot out of me and you've been very amenable to, and patient with, others' questions in the past; my bad if I've stepped out of place.
     
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  7. fallguy
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    Okay. I hate the double door business.

    Occam's twin directional, twin latched, twin triangle small window razors. No.

    Make it a simple door, open in for your forward loading. It doesn't even get rained on!

    No triangles. All boats have some blindspots; this one has very little. If the door opens in, you can move the aframes out and pick up 1.5".

    I bought a couple of boat hatches to fit my transom steps. Building your own is a timesuk.

    my two cents from the banned nation to the south
     
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  8. DogCavalry
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    It's great feedback guys. Lloyd, Fallguy, Bluebell.

    Lloyd, your cred is good with me. Don't be shy. Speak your piece. Unless you stab me in the eye with a pencil, you won't hurt my feelings.

    I'm imaging, based on your feedback and the scars that cover my skull, that the lifting door would look cool occasionally, and be a pain most of the time. Doors that swing in are far harder to make weather proof, but don't hit the cargo. Sliders are trickier to build, but take less space. I'll think more on it.
     
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  9. DogCavalry
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    And I got my shot!! Yay
     
  10. Ad Hoc
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    Hate to point out... doors/windows, should always open outwards.
     
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  11. DogCavalry
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    Yes. That is true. Just complicates things. Can't store cargo inside very well. Forward cockpit or back deck. An outswinging door stops being a door as soon as that cockpit is loaded up. Sideways slider on tracks outside, so it bears against seals that are compressed by any water that finds it's way into the cockpit.
     
  12. Ad Hoc
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    Aaahhh.. the beauty of the design compromise.... o_O
    Dammed if you do..and dammed if you don't.

    What about the window...as it is.. and the door part..opening outwards...?
     
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  13. Dejay
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    Clearly you need a saloon door haha
     
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  14. Ad Hoc
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    So long as there is room for the bar top and drinks :D
     
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  15. DogCavalry
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    Someday fellows. Anyone who shows up will get a drink on me.
     
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