Sea Sled madness. It’s in my brain.

Discussion in 'Fiberglass and Composite Boat Building' started by DogCavalry, Nov 11, 2019.

  1. DogCavalry
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    DogCavalry Senior Member

    Your point is well made, Fallguy. I don't yet know what market demand will be. If I'm regularly moving big loads, I'll build a barge to push. If it's a very rare occasion... well, I'll pay my labourers well.

    Just nice to have the hull strength to carry what the hydrodynamics will allow. Or close enough.
     
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  2. Air Flite
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    Air Flite Junior Member

    The videos of the 18' Air Ride and 27' Air Flite in operation are now on YouTube. I apologize for the poor quality....they were working videos meant to help with the refinement of the designs. I now regret not having professionally done footage shot. See links below:

    https://youtu.be/xx4yjLhE_O4

    https://youtu.be/ZdQBMRsoVNM
     
  3. Cajunpockettunnel
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    Air Flite, thanks for sharing. That is amazingly impressive! Those sleds scoot along just fine!
     
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  4. Air Flite
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    Air Flite Junior Member

    Hi Cajun - Thanks for the enthusiastic compliment. Developing these two boats occupied my spare time from 1992 - 1996...then I foolishly put the project to bed. There is some written discussion of development issues and some still pics on this thread and DC's new Sea Sled related thread. Best wishes, AF
     
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  5. Alexander Peter Bromley
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    Alexander Peter Bromley Student Naval Architect

    Very cool! I am actually studying through Westlawn which Dave Gerr founded.
     
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  6. DogCavalry
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    Thanks! Dave Gerr is one of my heros. Along with Burt Rutan, Simo Häyjä, Albert Hickman, and RA Heinlein.

    We're building somewhat different boats, but I'm sure as heck pulling for you.
     
  7. Alexander Peter Bromley
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    Alexander Peter Bromley Student Naval Architect

    Awesome man, I look forward to following the progress.
     
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  8. DogCavalry
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    Latest conundrum: bilge pumps and limbers vs watertight bulkheads. I'm so compartmentalized that even a serious hole is only an inconvenience. But to serve every box, I'll need around 8 bilge pumps. If I use 2, and cut limber holes, I'm basically sinking my boat on purpose. No bilge pump I could ever install would keep up with even a moderate hole.
     
  9. BlueBell
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    BlueBell . . . _ _ _ . . . _ _ _

    By "limbers" I take it you mean "limber holes".
    8 bilge pumps with switches and wiring.
    8 thru-hull holes or a demarcation box and one thru-hull?
    And your insurance company, what do they call for?
     
  10. bajansailor
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    bajansailor Marine Surveyor

    I think that maybe you are over-thinking this John.
    If you have a sealed compartment (perhaps with one of those little 6" diameter plastic screw-in inspection ports for access) then there should not ever be any water in there, hence no need for a bilge pump?
    Here is a typical example of an access port - Beckson 8" Deck Plate / Inspection Port https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?id=49131
    And if that compartment gets breached via a hole in the hull bottom, then if the compartment is otherwise water-tight, the water will be contained in that compartment.
    For an emergency situation, would it be feasible to have a high capacity 'roaming' bilge pump with a long hose that can reach every corner of the boat?
     
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  11. DogCavalry
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    I can certainly make a high capacity roaming pump setup. That is my impulse. Bluebells question is paramount though: what does the insurance agent want.
     
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  12. bajansailor
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    bajansailor Marine Surveyor

    I have often found that insurance companies (or their agents) usually do not know what they want, and yours might be in the same boat - but if you give them a report from a surveyor noting that the boat was properly designed and constructed, and has good subdivision with water-tight bulkheads, so unlike most pleasure craft of similar size, then that should impress them no end.
     
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  13. BlueBell
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    BlueBell . . . _ _ _ . . . _ _ _

    Good point!
    Interestingly, the way Transport Canada has chosen to go relieves them of responsibility by putting the owness on the operator and their insurer to be compliant.
    This is for small vessels but "small" is getting bigger every year.
     
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  14. DogCavalry
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    2 items: my Sweet Anne got her COVID-19 shot.

    I'm expecting a phonecall from the local commercial insurance guy from Lloyds. One of my clients is a colleague. He might tell me what he expects to see. I'm also talking to a local surveying company.
     

  15. Cajunpockettunnel
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    Sounds like you may have work for "Serenity" already.
     
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