Is the ocean broken?

There is more to the Sun's radiation than what you see. "It all has to do with the wavelength."

 

Nicely explained, SamSam.

So, not reflected, but absorbed after conversion to inferred? Or is it that CO2 doesn't heat up, it just reflects inferred, preventing the surface from transferring heat to the atmosphere?

-Will (Dragonfly)

 

That's what I get out of it, absorbed before and after conversion and slowly released to other molecules. Acting more as a transparent gateway than an opaque blockage that reflects. Since there's more greenhouse gases than normal now, more long wave photons get caught coming in, and when visible light short wave photons that get through get converted to long wave heat/infrared photons, there are more of them getting caught going back out also. Some gases, like methane are much better than CO2 at absorbing photons, but have a shorter life. CO2 sticks around for hundreds of years and keeps accumulating and will keep causing problems.

That's the problem with ice caps melting, reflectivity. Instead of white snow reflecting light waves back out to outer space, bare land or water will convert more of them to long heat waves which will get absorbed and trapped by greenhouse gasses. A Blue Ocean Event (BOE, an ice free Arctic) is haled as a bad milestone in the scheme of things. We'll probably have that about 2030, the same timeline of whatever it is Yobarnacle keeps on about.

 

It seems odd that you would want to know the opinion of someone whom you believe has lost all credibility. Maybe you really are my secret admirer? I wondered who sent me that unsigned Valentine's Day card last February?

 

Define "normal".

 

You forgot to mention the flowers . .

 

There comes a point where the specifics are so far off, they are not worth addressing. The arguments have been proven wrong so many times, the people who espouse them proven to be such nutcases, that they really don't have to be answered. As an example, the Earth is not flat. To argue with people that believe such things is basically pointless, they are immune to reason, they are immune to ridicule. More importantly, all this stuff has been answered by knowledgeable people, people trained in these things, reputable people. Every time someone wants a laymens explanation from another laymen, it's a version of the Telephone Game.

Actually, just about every reply in that thread offered answers and rebuttals. Does it matter if they add ad hominems when they are true?

This was probably the most useful answer,

 

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More than 175 ppm and less than 3oo ppm. Your turn, define normal.


Climate Change: Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide | NOAA Climate.gov https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide

 

Those are arbitrary numbers. Normal would be the percentages of the gases present under the conditions present at a given point in time.

 

This just seems like plain old horse ****. I really don't think it's worth the effort to bother with you. Is this horse **** or are you actually trying to say something? I can't tell.

 

What's a little more horse sh** on top of what you guys have been shoveling for years? Your doom and gloom prophecies over half a century and more have yet to bear any fruit other than to scare gullible people into surrendering their resources and hope unto you.

 

yeah

 

Oops. Forgot the flowers. My bad!

 

Ocean warming has seafloor species headed in the wrong direction

Many biologists have assumed marine species can shift habitat fairly easily if their environment changes, but the new study shows things are more complicated for species distributed only via drifting larvae.

A new study finds that in the Northwest Atlantic Ocean, many seafloor species are spawning earlier in the year, when currents take their larvae southward and into warmer waters—the wrong direction. For some of them, including the sand dollars beloved by beachcombers, this means their range is shrinking.

A key question, he says, is whether these species will likely evolve to spawn later or tolerate warmer water. And if they don’t, should biologists try transplanting them to more suitable environments?

The study was published in the journal Nature Climate Change.

 

There is a Zen story about a master and his student walking along a road. The student, spoting a turtle trying to cross the road, was concerned about the creature getting run over, so he picked up the turtle and carried it across the road, where he placed it back down, safely on the other side.

The master chastised the student. "You have interfered with the natural order of things. Have I not taught you better than this?"

Very contritely, the student apologised and hastened to retrieve the turtle and return it to the otherside of the road again.

Upon returning to his master's side, the master shouted at him, "Ah, you did it again!"

-Will (Dragonfly)