Anyone near Portland OR who might be able to give me a hand?

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  1. cthippo
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    I wasn't aware wreck tourism was a thing! I thought i was the only one.

    She is actually sort of still in use. The 3D doesn't show it very well, but there are two pilings driven through her deck into the bottom and at higher water she floats and is used as a spud barge to moor other barges to.
     
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    Ah, I see, that also explains the truck tires along the sides, the barges even seem to moor on the land side at high water.

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    from post #6
     
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    Below the USS PC-466 and the boat on the bank mirrored for PC Class hull and hawsehole comparison, which all looks pretty similar to me...

    USS PC-466 and maybe USS PC-470.jpg
     
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    I think it started life as a PC, but was re-designated sometime later as something else. If we could figure out what that something else was, it might tell us which PC it began life as. For example, the PC-624 was reclassified as YW-120 later in life. Hoping to find a PC that was XXX-12 and was stricken in Astoria.
     
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    On Wikipedia USS PC gives for me 1,623 results, of which I've only looked at the first 40 for the ones with a "12" in the number . . . .

    USS PC-1129 ‘‘ She was sunk by a Japanese suicide boat in January 1945 in the South China Sea. ’’

    USS PC-1261 ‘‘ She is notable for being the first ship sunk during the D-Day landings on 6 June 1944, when she was hit by shellfire from German shore batteries. ’’

    USS Grinnell (PC-1230) ‘‘ Fate: Pacific Reserve Fleet, 15 February 1956 ’’

    USS Munising (PC-1228) ‘‘ Fate: Pacific Reserve Fleet, 15 February 1956 ’’

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    USS PC-1264 at New York, circa April 1944

    USS PC-1264 ‘‘ Sold for scrapping; extant, as of February 2008 at position 40°33'21.3"N 74°13'01.5"W ’’ (at Arthur Kill, aka Staten Island Sound)

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    ‘‘ The Arthur Kill is a tidal strait that separates New Jersey (above) from Staten Island (below). Outerbridge Crossing (NJ/NY highway 440) connects the two, at the south end of Staten Island. Crossing its north end is the Goethals Bridge. The water body perpendicular to the Arthur Kill in New Jersey is the Rahway River. which divides Carteret on the south (left) and Linden on the north. The island in Arthur Kill is Prall's Island. ’’
     
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    The Arthur Kill Tugboat Graveyard is on top of my bucket list!
     
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    The archive I posted earlier
    Submarine Chaser Photo Index http://www.navsource.org/archives/12/01idx.htm
    lists boats by hull length and number.
    Under the list of submarine chasers, it specifies the number series of boats which had 173ft long hulls. I've not got much time just now, but it should help narrow the search!

     
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    If I'm looking at the same thing that looks like a '12' CT, the fact that the number has a dropped shadow might help, as I don't think that was so common as plain numbers. You would expect to see some letters in front though. It also looks a bit squiffy!
    spud bow numbers.jpg
     
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    Looking through the pictures on the SC / PC site it looks like the use of letters to go with the numbers was inconsistent. Some vessels had SC or PC in front of the numbers, some just had numbers, and various colors, fonts and sizes of numbers and letters were used. The "shadowed" font does show up on some vessels,, so that much is consistent.

    I was really hoping it would be PGM12, but the information I found says she ended up as part of the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) after the war.
     
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    Curiosity has got the better of me and I'm chunking through the numbers on the archive. Haven't finished yet, but I got to PC 1223 :
    • Sold in January 1947 to the Foss Tug and Barge Co. of Tacoma, WA
    • Fate unknown.
    Foss still have a presence in Portland.

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    The site has been operated by Sundial Marine from 1977 to 2011:

    Sundial Marine Construction http://shipbuildinghistory.com/shipyards/small/sundial.htm

    From the Maritime Journal 2007: SUNDIAL MARINE Launches 50th Hull https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/2007-06-08sundial-marine-launches-50th-hull

     

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    The historic aerial photos on Google Earth show the hulk present at 07/2001, but not at 09/90:
    upload_2020-9-10_12-6-21.png

    upload_2020-9-10_12-7-46.png
     
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