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  1. Dejay
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    38°C at the arctic circle!?

    "Faster than expected" is a kind of running joke on the collapse subreddit.
     
  2. Yobarnacle
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    Ya'll really need to stop wild claims, for sake of your own self esteem, that if the sun rises in the morning, it's evidence of your theories validity. You have only assumptions without any evidence except manufactured talking points. You're entirely too obvious to be credible!

    When your hype falls to the bottom of a bottomless pit, you will be so red faced!

    It takes about fifteen minutes for the natural carbon sinks to soak up all the human CO2 contributions for a year! Or, put it this way, the amount of CO2 the carbon sinks absorb in fifteen minutes, equals the human annual contribution of CO2.

    CO2 is a very minor green house gas, very small amount in the atmosphere and most, 95% of it is natural, not human contributed, and human contribution to CO2 is insignificant.
    Prove otherwise! You can't!
     
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    Atmospheric Concentration of Carbon Dioxide | PSI, Inc. https://principia-scientific.org/atmospheric-concentration-of-carbon-dioxide/

    “The fundamental reason why carbon dioxide abundance in the atmosphere is critically important to biology is that there is so little of it. A field of corn growing in full sunlight in the middle of the day uses up all the carbon dioxide within a meter of the ground in about five minutes. If the air were not constantly stirred by convection currents and winds, the corn would not be able to grow.”
     
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    "It takes about fifteen minutes for the natural carbon sinks to soak up all the human CO2 contributions for a year! Or, put it this way, the amount of CO2 the carbon sinks absorb in fifteen minutes, equals the human annual contribution of CO2." I posted a couple posts back.
    Do you accept that?

    slightly different problem but equally simple math,
    In a race to test how steady a pace you can maintain, you must complete a two mile course at a precise thirty miles per hour.
    The first mile you averaged fifteen miles an hour.
    To increase your average to the specified thirty mph over the two miles, how fast do you have to go during the second mile?

    The answer is, instantly accelerate to infinitely fast, you must instantaneously complete second mile

    Do you accept that? The math is simple enough to do in your head. A child could do either problem.

    Edit 3am following morning. This morning.
    Times up! Put down your pencils!



    60mph is a mile a minute,
    30mph is a mile every two minutes,
    15 miles per hour covers a mile in four minutes.

    To precisely average 30mph over a two mile course, you must complete the two miles in precisely four minutes.
    Since at 15mph average over the first mile used up four minutes, you have ZERO time remaining to complete the second mile. You'll have to instantly teleport. Very simple easy in your head math.

    Now, returning to absorbing all the annual human contributed CO2 in fifteen minutes? Do the math. It's easy. You can do it in your heads!
    There is a deadline to complete this quiz! At the deadline, incomplete answers are failed with a zero grade! Exactly as is un-attempted work!
    The clock is ticking! it's not waiting! It's not plodding. It's sixty beats a minute!Time flies.
    You have four hours. You may begin.
     
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    I'm pleased Norway can grow grapes now.
    May be worth investing in a few cases. When it turns cold again, and Norway can no longer bottle a vintage, the hoarded bottles could be quite valuable!
    More wine? Let me put on some jazz. Where are my sticks? Julie?
    Did you notice where I mislaid my drum sticks, Tesorita?
    Are you hiding them from me, again?


    Spanish (Mexican) question: Princesita (little princess) and Tesorita (little treasure)?
     
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    You are right!
    Human contribution is so insignificant, a small change in insignificant human contribution, remains insignificant! Undetectable, it's so insignificant!
     
  9. ImaginaryNumber
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    Rising Seas Threaten an American Institution: The 30-Year Mortgage

    People are becoming more cautious about buying beachfront homes.

    Banks want less of their skin in the game, so are requiring down-payments of up to 40%, rather than the more typical 20%.

    Furthermore, banks are getting rid of these risky loans by selling them to government-backed institutions like Fannie Mae, where taxpayers would be on the hook financially if any of the loans fail.

    And beachfront home buyers are protecting themselves by getting interest-only loans instead of 30-year mortgages, so in case of a storm or flood catastrophe they can walk away with less of a financial loss.

     
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    Yeah. That's just one of the downsides of alarmism! It's dangerous! Detrimental to the economy and people's well being. Eventually, it will become recognized as a crime equal to yelling bomb in an airport. All the alarmists will be gathered up and transported to an Antarctic penal colony, where they can luxuriate on the balmy CO2 warmed beaches!

    Do you want to have some fun? About 14 hours ago, I put a test on Ocean News for the lazy debaters.
    You can easily refute my statement about Natural sinks absorb all the annual human contributed CO2, in a mere fifteen minutes!
    I deliberately made a nonsense statement, in order to make several psychological points.

    One of my points this canard intends to demonstrate, is the AGW side ignores natural CO2, as if it were an indelible unchanging base line on their pads of blank charts, printed that way at the stationers.

    Another indication, is they are aware how tiny is human contribution and worried it MIGHT could be shown to be absorbed in fifteen minutes.

    Another, they are too lazy to do the simple math, and wait for someone else to do the thinking, so they can happily repeat talking points they didn't originate.

    Another, they're afraid to debate me. They don't fare well!

    Here it is spelled out for you!
    The simple refutation is, fifteen minutes is a quarter of an hour.
    Natural CO2 is 95% and humans contribute 5%.
    If 5% is absorbed in one quarter of an hour, all 100% would be absorbed in five hours, or 20 quarter hour segments.
    It's patently ridiculous to suggest the total annual emission of CO2 from all sources could be absorbed in five hours.
    There would be zero CO2 left in the atmosphere if that were the case, and no plants could exist anywhere!

    I said the math could be done in your heads!
    Ya'll fail!.
     
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    I've added some for me shocking 2006 footage of the Dutch Prime Minister in Dutch parliament to post #3419.
     
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    Do you think it's possible he forgot or is unaware of the atrocities of VOC?
    Not defending him, just offering a less "shocking" interpretation for you.
     
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    He knows about the VOC atrocities, but that's on the back of his mind, the successes it brought for the Netherlands, without thinking of the gruesome costs for others, that's in the front of his mind and made him say so, then he'd had enough criticism for it in the Netherlands pointing out the atrocities, for 14 years now, but he never took it back, which makes me believe he still stands for it.
     
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    I don't know anything about Mr. Balkenende, but what is relevant is that many people believe in social democracy and capitalism with a nice face due to regulations. So maybe he believes you could have some big economic empire like the Dutch East India Company but with regulation and no atrocities, and that it's all nice and fair and everyone profits and has a job. It's just a friendly competition with no consequences. If you believe that infinite growth is possible than anything is possible I guess. And since they are all pals and friendly with all the corporate elites they think the massive influence of economic power on politics is somehow benign.

    Personally I believe this is the dangerous dogma and unscientific foolishness that brought us here.
     
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