PLASTIC BAGS and our WATER WORLD

You missed the point 80% of American are walking about with half closed eyes shaking in dark corners. Thats your work force.

Wealth made at what cost?

Under those circumstances 18% unemployed is good.

 

Exactly. She has more credibility than he, who we know to be mendacious.

 

Nonsense.

 

its a sad reality that while most countries leaders are busy trying to better there countries condition America's leaders are busy selling us out to the corporate oligarchy. Which has exactly no interest in the health and well being of the American people. Leads a lot of folks to self medicate.

Eventually there can be no other outcome but for the US to be broke and the people so discouraged it takes generations to recover, if at all, assuming climate shift doesn't deal us its deadly blow before then. anaerobic stratification.

 

Well, Frosty ... under any circumstances 16% of the population will fall outside one standard deviation on the left tail of an intelligence distribution. That's an IQ of ~85 or less.

Not to suggest that these people are unemployable, but if governments want to keep enforcing minimum wage laws, livable wages, and employer sponsored health care -- they will be unemployed. So I'm not sure what "circumstances" you're talking about.

We could, of course, have the government employ them to extract plastic bags from our oceans. How do they handle it where you live?

 

They go into politics, of course.

PDW

 

Yeah, they do that here too.

 

Are you missing the point on purpose. Ille try again sloowly.

If 80% is on drugs and "pain killers" then 80% of people must be unemployable being addicted to some drug in some way. I would agree with anyone that would say those figure are very high yet I am repeating the report as accurate as I can

In that case your 18% unemployment is good. Finding work for a country of drug soddened workforce must be difficult.

The report also stated that Americans would all too often ask the doctor for pain killers, and this was complied with unnecessarily and caused this problem as was the over subscription of Anti biotics leading to the misuse of such and the reason for its inefective performance and consiquently the birth of the 'superbug'

What the hell are plastic bags got to do with it

 

PlasTiki, out to draw attention to ocean pollution and acidification

Sail-World Cruising followed Plastiki's crossing of the Pacific with six crew with regular updates. They weren't fast, in fact she sailed like a dog, but she was made of recycled material and owner David de Rothchild, sailor, explorer and global green leader was not out to go fast, he was out to make a point.

The point was to draw attention to the gross waste and pollution of the Western world, and in this he succeeded brilliantly - now there is the book.

In it he recounts the extraordinary Pacific-crossing voyage of the Plastiki, an innovative and mostly untested sixty-foot sailing catamaran that floats on 12,500 reclaimed plastic bottles.

....more here
http://www.sail-world.com/cruising/index.cfm?nid=108642&rid=11

 

Plastiki was just as confused as Frosty.
Happy the crew survived a silly "demonstration".
Sensless waste of manpower - why didn't he come up with something to actually offer an alternative to the use of plastic?
Close to the practice of self immolation by monks to protest this or that

 

Not everone is a technician that can solve such problems, and many of the technicians don't know how to, or don't bother with 'protesting-demonstrating'. It takes bought types of people sometimes.

I'm sorry I posted to this old subject thread as now I remember it was hi-jacked long ago. I'll move on to some more serious threads, and concerned folks.
Brian

 

Adidas brings its ocean plastic footwear to the masses

There's a huge amount of plastic swirling around in the ocean and some long-term plans to clean it up, but Adidas has some short-term plans to put at least some of it to use. The sportswear manufacturer has today announced that its footwear made from the ocean's plastic waste will be available to buy this month, and has put together some recycled plastic jerseys for a couple of big-name soccer clubs to help mark the occasion.

Adidas has teamed up with environmental organization Parley for the Oceans to make the shoes, which draws the plastic waste materials from the coastal areas of the Maldives. The two joined forces last year to help increase awareness and drive new technologies to retrieve and recycle ocean plastic debris. They first produced a limited run of 50 recycled plastic shoes last year, and are now bringing the eco-minded footwear to market.

The knitted upper part of Adidas' UltraBoost Uncaged Parley trainers is made from a mix of 95 percent recycled ocean plastic and recycled polyester. The rest, such as the laces, heel cap and lining is made from recycled materials.

Meanwhile, two of Europe's soccer giants in Real Madrid and Bayern Munich will this month take to the field in jerseys made from Parley's recycled ocean plastic. Bayern's recycled red shirt will be on display when it takes on TSG 1899 Hoffenheim on Saturday, while Real Madrid will show off its white version later this month on November 26 against Real Sporting de Gijón.

Both jerseys will be available from the Adidas online store (Bayern Munich's from today and Real Madrid's from November 24) though there is no word yet on pricing. The footwear will be available online from mid-November and priced at €200 (US$222). The company says, however, that it will make one million pairs in 2017, a tally that would remove eleven million bottles from the ocean.


http://newatlas.com/adidas-ocean-plastic-footwear/46295/

 

Whales found with plastic bags inside, pretty much filled up. (30 bags). So; in short it took the accumulated garbage from approx 30 persons, that each trew one plastic bag in the ocean, to kill a whale (rare type, here in Norway). I'm no angel in this respect, i eat whales, horses, snakes... when offered, or when i find or stumble across it. But I do not feel comfortable with how we treat the nature, these "killings" that we do by not handling garbage/ plastics in a responsible way, cause serious pain for the animals affected. And let's face it; some of these fishes, whales, will end up on our tables, killed before they die of the internal pollution caused by us. Some of the chemistry from the plastics will be in the meat. What will we serve our children...?
The more I read, or find, the more worried I get.

Norwegian whale found (did it have a passport?):
30 bags inside, got put out of its misery...:

http://www.bt.dk/udland/norsk-hval-fundet-med-30-plastikposer-i-maven-og-maatte-aflives

 

Its been quite awhile since I posted on this subject, but a friend recently sent me this video presentation

 

Possible Solution !?

California trash-to-hydrogen plant promises dirt-cheap, super-green H2 https://newatlas.com/energy/sgh2-cheap-green-hydrogen-california/

...just an excerpt....
How it works
The process, developed by SGH2's parent company Solena, uses high-temperature plasma torches putting out temperatures between 3,500 and 4,000 °C (6,332 to 7,232 °F). This ionic heat, with oxygen-enriched gas fed in, catalyzes a "complete molecular dissociation of all hydrocarbons" in whatever fuel you've fed in, and as it rises and begins to cool, it forms "a very high quality, hydrogen-rich bio-syngas free of tar, soot and heavy metals."

The process accepts a wide variety of waste sources, including paper, old tires, textiles, and notably plastics, which it can handle very efficiently without toxic by-products. The bio-syngas exits the top of a plenum chamber, and is sent to a cooling chamber, followed by a pair of acid scrubbers to remove particulate matter.