Buccaneer 24 Trimaran

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  1. oldsailor
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    Quite literally a torpedo like bulge just below the water line at the bow.
     
  2. popeyensweetp
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    For sale 24 lock tri

    Iam in Sarasota florida and have a 24, some rot but all the rig and trailer is great. giving it away for 1500.00 call 941-232-4721
     
  3. bruceb
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    Buc in Florida

    Popeye, is that the one that has been on Craig's list recently?
     
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  5. freddyj
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    Does anyone know what the prhf rating is on a buc24?
     
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    Junk rig on a Bucc to be polite is a “mismatch”
    IMHO.
     
  8. bruceb
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    I will not make a judgement on whether a JR is appropriate, but the way a Buc 24 is designed, the mast, if keel stepped, would have to be just in front of the forward cross beam. The daggerboard trunk is just aft of the beam and is part of the basic structure. I would expect the mast would need to be forward to keep the rig COE in the correct place anyway. I think it would be pretty easy to install the necessary support in that area.
    It might be an interesting cruising rig.
    B
     
  9. freddyj
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    Did I ruin my boat? I put an electric saildrive on my buc. Right now a fixed prop till I can get a folder. I started racing this summer and I've come in last place each time. In heavy winds I do ok, but by the end of the race the winds die down. Can dragging a prop make that much difference even in neutral and spinning?
     
  10. bruceb
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    Fred, I can't say that the prop is the only issue, but ANY drag on a light boat is death in light wind. The electric drives I have looked at in person had fairly fat hubs and were not very well streamlined. A windmilling prop also drags more than you might expect, a fixed one acts as a very good brake. I have used a lowered outboard to slow down.
    Any extra drag on a light boat really works against performance, down wind you are just slower, upwind you are both slower and your DMG drops also. Light boats tend to have small rigs so they depend on speed through the water to increase their apparent wind- if the boat doesn't accelerate due to excess drag, weight, poor sail shape ect., all advantages of being light are lost.
    Bruce
     
  11. freddyj
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    So, I removed the saildrive and built an electric outboard. So that eliminates prop drag. I closed off the centerboard slot and built a daggerboard. The dagger is about 4 inches longer than plans call for. So that eliminates drag from the slot. Also, I am in process of building a new lighter rudder to get some weight off the back. The old rudder is VERY heavy. Right now it's about 10 inches longer than plans, but an inch shorter front to back. Is a longer rudder better or worse? Next is to lengthen transom and flatten rocker.
    I started racing it last summer, now all I want to do is make it faster!
     
  12. bruceb
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    So you feel the need for speed ;) Fred, actual measurements would help me compare what you have to other rudders. All foils a best when long and skinny, think a sail plane's wings, but there is a limit to what is practical. Also, I used the blade off a Catalina 22 kick-up rudder on my 24 and never got around to replacing it- it works quite well and the boat is quite well proven to be fast. I did build it a thin and long 7'6" overall daggerboard that really did make a difference in speed and pointing. I am building a new dagger for my Dragonfly 25 right now. 1 3/4" thick x 20" cord x 8' overall putting about 5'6" below the hull. It is angled aft like the Buc so about 6' draft total. I am tapering the bottom 18".
    Bruce
     

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    Good info, Bruce.
     
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