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  1. SamSam
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    1. Yes, I realized that soon enough
    4. I did try untwisting and said in a way you were correct and my bad.

    Well, I read what you linked and aside from the usual sordid acts perpetrated by vanquishing subjugators, the mongrel hordes, there wasn't one word about wheels. In fact, in their roaming around the occupied land in their insatiable Holy lust for loot, raiding villages, stealing food, murdering and attempting to enslave the locals, they managed to lose all their ships, eat all their horses and in general prove so inept at living as to eventually
    LOL! Carrying loads and still no mention of wheels! It's as if they never knew about wheels or something.

    As far as
    2. Cabeza de Vaca was the first one in the region with wheel technology.
    3. Native Americans were introduced to the wheel by the Conquistadors.

    No, he wasn't and no, they weren't.

    Some of these date back to 1500 BCE...

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    https://www.quora.com/Why-did-the-Maya-Aztecs-and-Inca-not-invent-the-wheel

    Wheels apparently were not well suited for Native Americans because of lack of roads and no large domesticated animals to pull carts.
    It's like you never see modern hikers pulling wagons.
    Well, not much anyway...
    Pack Animal Options: Pack Goats and Hiking Carts https://www.honeybadgerwheel.com/blogs/news/packing-trends-pack-goats-and-hiking-carts

    Any comment on my idea about Christian graffiti on the petroglyph rock?
    What about the spoked wagon wheel/Christian Prayer Wheel comparison? Were you not aware of CPWs or Native American medicine wheels?

    I wasn't, until I misinterpreted what you originally said and then looked around a little.

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  2. Angélique
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    One of Sam's links leads to this link, which sounds and looks pretty real to me . . . .

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    replica, from the INAH collection

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    ‘‘ . . . . The earliest known wheeled animal figure came from the ‘Classic Period’ (roughly, 300-900 AD or CE), found in the Huastec region of the Gulf of Mexico lowlands, whereas most date from the ‘Postclassic’ Period (from 900 to the time of the Conquest), and most are of dogs, jaguars, monkeys and deer. . . . ’’

    Just random... the Centaur - Nessus carrying off the Nymph - Deianira, by Laurent Marqueste (1892), Tuileries Garden, Paris.

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    W.A.S.P. - The Manimal - (1987)

     
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  3. Angélique
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    For me the latter only vaguely, thanks for bringing it up here, but I'm still wondering what the CPWs abbreviation literally stands for, luckily as a serendipity while looking for the meaning of CPWs in relation to Medicine Wheels it brought me across this interesting medicine wheel video, and in the fly by I've also grabbed the below pic from 1:30.


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  4. SamSam
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    CPW = Christian Prayer Wheel is just an acronym I made up as my typing is so slow.
    Those wheeled toys came from the "Quora" site, which I've become a little suspicious of. I was vaguely under the impression it was an academic mensa type site because you can't directly see topics unless you join. It will let you see a single topic if linked but that's it. Turns out all you have to do is join some google info collecting and human manipulating thing like facebook, twitter etc. so basically it's just a more or less informed opinion site. I was looking to see why there were no large draft animals, which is one of the theories of why the wheel wasn't developed and used in America, and this less informed answer came up, another wait...what? moment like the one that started this whole tangent.
    https://www.quora.com/Why-did-horse...-the-steppes-of-Eurasia-Why-did-bison-survive
    To go against all evidence and most theories by saying there were no horses here before the 1500's and then say they were always here and never went extinct...

    Here's more on the wheel thing...
    https://www.quora.com/Why-did-the-Maya-Aztecs-and-Inca-not-invent-the-wheel
     
  5. Angélique
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    Thanks, the CPW explanation makes the previous perfectly clear to me . . . :)

    P.S. - Ah, my bad, just saw the explanation was already given in the original post, where it was written in full before the abbreviation...
     
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    Live and learn. :)
     
  7. Angélique
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    Study as if you were to live forever Live as if you were to die tomorrow St Isidore of Seville.jpg

    Which was kinda retweeted by . . . .

    Live as if you were to die tomorrow Learn as if you were to live forever Mahatma Gandhi.jpg
     
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  8. Angélique
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    Re post #8358, - I'm sorry, I forgot to mention the good flying WASPs, - I haste to salute them here . . .

    WASP is also Women Airforce Service Pilots​

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    WAFS = Women's Auxiliary Ferrying Squadron

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    U.S. Army Air Corps / Air Force WASP badge​
     
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  9. Angélique
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    The above 4th pic from the bottom is a B-17 named Pistol Packin' Mama, several more B-17's were called that way, possibly named after the 1943 Al Dexter song, which was covered by Bing Crosby and the Andrews Sisters, also in 1943.


    One of the B-17 Pistol Packin' Mamas crash landed after severe heavy flak hits in the south west of the Netherlands, roughly near 51°19'N 3°37'E, on November 5, 1943....

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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    Below a clip from a WW II documentary film(ad) called Pistol Packin' Mama: The Missions of a B-17 . . .

     
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    World War II training film for pilots on the theory and practice of evading flak anti aircraft fire...

     
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    My dad was a maintenance instructor of these.
     
  13. Angélique
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    Checking it out I've just learned the first is claimed to be the patron saint of: ‘‘ the internet, computer users, computer technicians, programmers, students. ’’

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    ‘‘ Saint Matthew the Apostle, depicted with an angel, is the patron saint of: Salerno in Italy, bankers, and tax collectors. ’’

    So for each branch such a heavenly advocate seems to be invented, note the angel is counting on her fingers from whom to take what . . ? - :rolleyes:
     
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    There seems to be even more work for St. Matthew, as his claimed patronage comprises: ‘‘ accountants, Salerno in Italy, bankers, tax collectors, perfumers, civil servants. ’’

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    ‘‘ German ledger from 1828 ’’ - (which looks to me quite similar to what St. Matthew holds above)
     
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