Help With Hull Design

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  1. Proflooney
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    unfortunatley thats my problem I cannot find hull plans for it. I also wrote the ships manufacturer and woods hull institute and no one ever returned my email. thats weird usually if I write to a manufacturer asking for info for a model I at least get a press kit from them with rough line drawings.

    I think I will mess around trying to learn delft ship and do me a tall sailing ship from the 17 or 1800's

    theres a lot of info out there on them maybe even a sailing steamer )
     
  2. TANSL
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    If you believe that I can help you, do not hesitate to say it, although I know nothing about DelftShip.
     
  3. Proflooney
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    yea I use solidworks myself but like to try delftship in order to get nice offset tables as it seems to be easier to fare the lines they tell me.

    anyways I found some nice drawings of the Steam Sloop Wapama that I like the looks of so will try that and hope their offsets are better
     

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    just in case you want to look at it i zipped up the drawings and put on my server http://www.proflooney.net/steamer-schooner-WAPAMA.rar

    I think it has a lot of character and I can make a little working steam engine to run it. or at least model up the engine and 3D print it and hide an electric motor i. doesnt have sails but can do a different sailing steamer later once i have something built for the grandkids this spring
     
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    With all this information you can make a great 3D model.
    I work with AutoCAD and then export the model to Rhino and, above all, MaxSurf. But I am sure that any CAD package will be able to use files in the multiple formats in which AutoCAD can export them.
     
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    yes I use dxf files a lot i never had much luck in rhino though i love 3d max however onece I have line drawings in dxf i am able to bring them right into solidworks
     
  7. JosephT
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    Here's a ~275ft research vessel hull. It's quite similar to the original one you wanted. I don't have time to tweak it right now, but for an RC boat it should make any kid happy. I imported into SolidWorks the surfaces look good. Enjoy.
     

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    ok thanks ill take a peek
     
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    it looks like the one from delftship hehe
     
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    Yes it's one of many samples, but quite a good match if I say so my self. Very easy to convert to .igs and bring directly into SolidWorks. The bow angle and a few other spots could easily be tweaked and I would encourage you to read up a bit on DelftShip and learn to do that if you're looking for a closer match.

    I've got too many oars in the water right now.
     
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    no problem I appreciate it I can use it for a generic research vessel and the bow yes is easily tweaked in solidworks.

    I am very anal when modeling something as I do it for a living for museums the movies and military bases so I was wanting to do the Atlantis as accurate as possible for my portfolio but the grandkids having fun this next spring is more important.

    I just few years back did the full sized bomber for the movie unbroken and worked on the mini sub for the upcoming movie transformers 5

    so its kinda why I am a little picky when I was asking questions.

    I did try the delftship tutorials but they usually working with that little row boat design and not a complicated ship hull thats why I been frustrated. maybe it might be because I am overthinking things or because I am getting too picky lol both is probably the reason

    thanks again as I couldnt even get that hull into solidworks i couldnt find the iges export

    Joe
     
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    There are more control points, angles and curves with more complicated vessels, which means they take more time. Is this ship for a client or a gift to a young lad with an RC boat hobby?

    If it is for a client and you want a better match I would suggest refining the profile of the ship first (in DelftShip). Conversely, adjust the body plan to match the bow/stern hull shape. Since you don't have any body plans use photographs of the bow/stern shape to get it as close as you can. For the top plan...the view for that hull I sent is very close...just some small tweaks needed to the stern to remove the taper.
     
  13. Proflooney
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    naw it was just something for me to take my 2 grandsons (ages 4 and 6) to the local cement pond to sail with the model boat club. I been designing aircraft plans for over 35 yrs and the eyes not what used to be and grandkids seemed disinterested in planes but love boats. However I wanted to do something recognizable and use it in my portfolio.


    I am currently woirking on the offsets for the Steam sloop I posted drawings of above as I believe a shipyard redid the plans correcting errors. then I want to read up on how to insert coordinates in delftship then use that data and adjust the hull etc in delftship and use them as a learning tool for delftship

    meanwhile I woll work on making stations etc for that research vessel.
     
  14. Proflooney
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    Well I got the data into excel and converted for the steam sloop. I just have to convert the station distances and the waterline and sheer info
     

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    OK I was able to get all the station curve files set up and the offsets However there are 3 height dimensions missing I am tring to find the info for and that is for the Half-Siding, Deck Sheer and Plank Sheer

    also I have the diagonals converted but im not sure what diagonals are could someone enlighten me please?

    attaching updates excel file, this one is getting lot easier due to understanding how the last file for the mission boat was set so I am learning something i thunk lol
     

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