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Imagine a number.
I said before, climatologists are using different logarithmic equations but a correct equation would coincide with observed data over recent 50 years or so.

The problem of a "correct" equation is difficult because, do you ascribe ALL warming to CO2?
What percent of warming do you ascribe to CO2?

Eventually, ALL logarithmic equations flatline.
That being true, eventually in ALL the equations, CO2 effectively ceases to induce additional warming.

The chart I extended ascribed ALL observed warming to CO2.
And flatlined less than 2 degree C above baseline.

It DID match the historical data, since that's the data points used to create the graph.
And most probably, CO2 is NOT solely responsible for warming.
I believe very little of warming is due to CO2, but no matter.
If less than ALL the warming graphed is due to CO2, it would flatline sooner, perhaps HAS flatlined.

Regards removing data points from the other graph.
I suggest no such thing.
My point is ALL the temperatures fall within normal variation range.

A few 100ths of a degree or even occasional few 10ths of a degree variation year to year isn't extraordinary.
2015 was a few 10th higher but also had a strong El Nino.
Not warming caused by CO2.

We'll just have to wait and see, because to date, observed temperatures recent 20 years, don't suggest a need for draconian measures.
Like social engineering carbon taxes.

Liberals seem to like the idea of manipulating other people. Have you noticed? Apparent in all their propaganda.
Raised wrong I guess.

 

I requested that you provide the URL for where you got the chart, and to provide the data that the chart was attempting to model. As far as I know you've not done so. Two of the URL's you've provide show much different charts than the one you posted. Since they don't provide the data they used either I have no idea which one is correct.

At this point you don't have much credibility. You can keep whining about how bad liberals and socialists are, or you can come up with solid, empirical, scientific evidence to support your line of thinking that CO2's greenhouse heating ability has essentially flat-lined.

The ball is in your court.

 

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People Still Don't Get the Link between Meat Consumption and Climate Change

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com...-between-meat-consumption-and-climate-change/
Over the last decade or so, the media have slowly but steadily fed the public information about the staggering impact of our meat-eating habits on the environment, and on climate change in particular. For instance, one recent study found that a global transition toward low-meat diets could reduce the costs of climate change mitigation by as much as 50 percent by 2050. From scientific reports and articles in magazines, to viral Facebook videos to documentaries like Cowspiracy and Meat the Truth, the news about the exorbitant contribution of a carnivorous to the greenhouse problem is clearly spreading.

However, despite all these messages, new research by my colleagues and myself shows that most people are still not aware of the full extent of meat’s climate impacts. We examined how citizens in America and the Netherlands assess various food and energy-related options for tackling climate change.

Currently, most communications around meat and climate change are in the category of ‘the pointing finger’, thereby creating guilt, shame, and stigmatization among committed carnivores, and activating psychological mechanisms of denial and downplay. Stating that eating meat is ‘bad’ therefore doesn’t seem to work that well.

However, for people who already identify as environmentalists, this strategy can be very effective. They tend to embrace this message, especially if the finger is pointed at an external other they are suspicious of (e.g., ‘the capitalist system’, ‘the meat-industry’). We see this in the success of Cowspiracy, which readily convinced countless people to ‘go vegan.’ Many of these people have a postmodern worldview, are aligned with environmental values, and are suspicious of the corporate influences in our economic system ~ so the message is easy to digest.

 

I think I posted couldn't find where I got the chart, found some similar but not the one I was looking for.
Then Samsam found a source for that chart.
Not where I got it, but a source.
You waited till it was about 20 pages old before you asked, and I thought I had posted the url. So too late.

And besides, Mr Editor Of Science, oh...you aren't, are you.
So I guess you don't get to demand criteria for posting/accepting for publication.

And I have no epectation of convincing any of the AGWers on the thread.
Only hoping to keep innocent minds from being suckered by AGW propaganda.

Credibility?
That's for them to decide.
You don't have a say in what's credible to them, and nothing I'd say would be credible to you, so who cares if you think it's credible or not.

 

I don't get the logic here. You want to keep innocent minds from being suckered by AGW propaganda, and yet you don't feel you have to post any credible information to do that...?

It seems to me you would then only get uninformed, ignorant people to believe what you're claiming, people that don't care where the information comes from and don't care if it's true or not.

 

Back in about 1939 the Nazi`s banned smoking in public areas and told citizen that they should eat health foods and Hitler and Goering were vegetarians, follow me. From the book " Hitlers Scientists." John Cornwell.
Scientist then knew all about the effect of smoking and about asbestosis and other nasty things but all that knowledge went to waste because of other ambitions.
They tried very hard to change the world so things look pretty bleak for our future generations.

 

Way back when I posted that chart, it was one of several.
I posted an url for the other charts, but that chart wasn't on that site.
Only excuse, I must of been thinking I got them all from the one url.
But that far back, I simply don't remember.
Normally, I make an effort to be accurate and document my posts.
Sometimes, I make errors due to being tired or preoccupied.
Sometimes I'm interupted mid-post and lose my thoughts since I was on the phone or in another conversation.

At any rate, if I miss posting an url, please promptly call it to my attention.
NOT 20 days later.

Do you remember which websites YOU visited 20 days ago?

But you did find the chart. Thanks.

IN is busting my chops over trivial procedural items because he can't refute the data.

 

Hi Tom
Apparently many people want to believe that Hitler was a vegetarian. Perhaps they're threatened by vegetarianism because it implies that they're doing something wrong. But armed with the (mistaken) idea that the infamous Hitler himself was a vegetarian that allows them to easily dismiss the whole concept of vegetarianism in one fell swoop. "Hitler was a vegetarian, therefore vegetarianism in itself must be flawed!" Of course, that's a patently retarded argument. But the point is, many people are eager to believe it, which is why they require no proof at all when they hear that Hitler was a veggie

Hitler's lunch and dinner consist, therefore, for the most part of soup, eggs, vegetables and mineral water, although he occasionally relishes a slice of ham and relieves the tediousness of his diet with such delicacies as caviar ..." (source) So when Hitler says he's a vegetarian, he's almost certainly using it in this context: He's a "vegetarian" who eats meat. That's like someone saying, "I'm not a bank-robber! I only do it once a month."

The Hitler Book, about Hitler's daily routine in 1944: "After midnight [Eva] would direct that there should be another light snack of turtle soup, sandwiches, and sausages." (source)

If Hitler was really a vegetarian, he was a sausage-eating one.

British law that had been passed in 1876, which restricted some animal research, but hardly eliminated it.
An enormous amount of research on animals continued to be carried out by Nazi doctors.

Also the evidence of Nazi experiments on animals is overwhelming. In "The Dark Face of Science," author John Vyvyan summed it up correctly:

"The experiments made on prisoners were many and diverse, but they had one thing in common: all were in continuation of or complementary to, experiments on animals. "In every instance, this antecedent scientific literature is mentioned in the evidence, and at Buchenvald and Auschwitz concentration camps, human and animal experiments were carried out simultaneously as parts of a single programme."

It is important that the facts be known so that the myths about Hitler and the Nazis cannot be used against the animal rights and vegetarian movements.

 

http://www.neatorama.com/2014/03/24/Der-Fartenfhrer-The-Story-of-Hitlers-Health/

Hitler had suffered from digestive problems his entire life. Since childhood he’d been prone to crippling, painful stomach cramps during times of emotional distress. By the time he’d reached his early 40s, the cramping had become more frequent, often accompanied by violent bouts of farting, along with alternate bouts of diarrhea and constipation.

The farting attacks are one of the reasons Hitler became a "partial" vegetarian in the early 1930s: He didn’t trust doctors, so rather than seek professional help for his condition he tried to treat it himself by eliminating meat, rich foods, milk, and butter from his diet in favor of raw and cooked vegetables and whole grains.

Increasing the fiber in his diet did not improve Hitler’s condition; if anything it made him even gassier than he’d been before. (But the vegetarian diet may have made his farts less smelly, and he may have been willing to settle for that.) By the mid-1930s, Hitler was the ruler of Germany… and still farting like a horse. His attacks were most severe right after meals; during dinner parties it was common for him to suddenly leap up from the table and disappear into his private quarters, leaving stunned guests to wonder why the Führer had gone and when he might be back. On many nights he did not return at all.
Hitler’s intestinal ailments were intermittent and, as had been the case during his childhood, still had a considerable psychological component: He suffered from attacks of cramps and farting during times of stress, then when things calmed down his symptoms abated

 

I use the Firefox browser almost exclusively. It has a "History" button which records every web site I visit (until I intentionally delete it). I can search it by Name, by URL, or by date. I assume all the other browsers have a similar feature.

I'm not busting your chops simply because you can't come up with a URL, but because the chart you posted didn't appear to come from a credible scientific source, and because I can't find the data used to create it. This is not a "trivial procedural item".

Multiple times you've challenged us to rebut your chart. Why would we want to rebut something that you've simply pulled out of your keister?

Because I am not a climate scientist I make a point to provide a reference for most every scientific article I post. I consider that to be an essential element for building the case for AGW. I want people to be convinced about AGW because of the good science behind it, not simply because I spew forth passionate oratory. They can go to church for that, or listen to Rush Limbaugh or Donald Trump.

My friend, the information content of your posts is rapidly approaching the zero asymptote. I'm so worried about you that I've started looking for your name in the Obituary columns. I'm wondering how you spell Yobarnacle in Spanish; maybe Yopercebe, or Yolapa?

These cartoons are ocean-related, aren't they?

 

‘Godzilla’ El Niño is dead | Washington Post

 

To help curb climate change, stop wasting food | Reuters

http://www.climatechange-foodsecurity.org/dual_aspect.html

 

I would think it should coincide with CO2 levels from 200ppm to 400ppm, as those levels are part of the historical record.

Negatory.

www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/science/CO2-and-global-warming-faq.html

How do we know more CO2 is causing warming? | Skeptical Science

Please note that logarithms are used in describing the heating ability of CO2.

Also note all the links to respected scientific research and publications to support all their arguments. This is generally lacking in your posts.

Agree

 

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-beach/fl-coral-bleaching-20150928-story.html

 

International overfishing study argues every vessel should be tracked | CBC News